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Cold and Missing: The Thompson Family

Cold and Missing: The Thompson Family
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Cold and Missing

The Thompson family, consisting of Everett Sr., Lydia, and their two sons, Everett Jr. and Andrew, went missing in July 1996 in Chicago, IL. Prior to their disappearance, there was tension in the household due to Lydia's brother, Kenneth White, who had recently been released from prison and was staying with them. On July 3, 1996, Lydia called the police reporting that Kenneth was chasing her with an ax, but no arrests were made. On July 5, Everett received a frantic call from Lydia, stating that Kenneth was once again chasing her with an ax. Everett left work in a hurry, and this was the last time anyone saw or heard from him. Kenneth later arrived at the restaurant where Everett worked, claiming that Everett had been arrested after a car accident. Kenneth's story kept changing, and he eventually sold the family van to a scrap yard and the Thompson home to people who immediately gutted the interior. The Thompson family's disappearance remains unsolved, and Kenneth, the prime suspect, died by suicide in December 1997.

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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,240 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,960 Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,240 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski, and it will just be me this week. 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,460 My darling husband, Eli, is out running Christmas errands right now. 11 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:49,720 So while he's doing that, I thought I would take advantage of the quiet house and bring 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,120 you a new episode of Cold and Missing. 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,340 So just to get right into things, this week we are covering a missing person case. 14 00:00:58,340 --> 00:01:02,000 And just as a bit of a content warning, this case does involve young people. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,840 There are mentions of sexual assault and death by suicide. 16 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:12,120 So this week on Cold and Missing, we are going to review the Thompson family disappearance. 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,920 And this happens in July of 1996 in Chicago, Illinois. 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,680 So first, a little bit about the Thompson family. 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,020 Everett Thompson is 40 years old in 1996. 20 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:26,040 His wife, Lydia, is 43 years old. 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:32,000 And their two sons, Everett Jr., is 11 years old, and Andrew is 8 years old. 22 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,600 The Thompson family live in the Chatham neighborhood in Chicago, Illinois, which is on the south 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,600 side. 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,560 They have two young sons, as I mentioned, Everett Jr. and Andrew. 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Everett Sr. and Lydia were married in 1982 after Everett moved to the area to work at 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,760 the nearby steel mills. 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Originally, Everett is from Philadelphia, but he still talked with his parents all the 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,160 time who were back home in Philly. 29 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Everett and Lydia had taken a chance and started a restaurant called EAT & Co. 30 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,960 The word EAT is Everett's initials, Everett Andrew Thompson. 31 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,840 He was the head cook there, and cooking was a passion of his. 32 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,440 Lydia had inherited the Chatham home from her parents after they passed away. 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,880 She owned one-third of it with her two other siblings, Kenneth and Phyllis. 34 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,880 In February of 1996, so just a few months before the family goes missing, Lydia's 35 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,600 brother Kenneth was released from prison and he came to stay with the family at the home. 36 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,240 This quickly causes tension in the household. 37 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,680 Kenneth felt annoyed that he had to share a house that he believed was his and his alone 38 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:41,220 with his sister and her family, and Everett's family believed that Kenneth was a freeloading 39 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:43,440 house guest, quote unquote. 40 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,980 Arguments would break out in the home frequently. 41 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:49,780 And now a timeline of events. 42 00:02:49,780 --> 00:02:55,640 On July 3rd, 1996, Lydia calls the police because Kenneth is out of hand. 43 00:02:55,640 --> 00:03:00,040 She tells the police that her brother is chasing her around with an axe threatening to kill 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,040 her. 45 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Police arrive at the home, but no arrests are made since things appear to have calmed 46 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,560 down. 47 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,960 The police do enter the home to have a look around, but everything is in its place and 48 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,120 nothing seems out of the ordinary, so they go ahead and leave the family alone for the 49 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,120 night since things do seem to have cooled down. 50 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:23,440 But two days later, July 5th, 1996, Everett is working at EAT & Co. 51 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 While at work, he was talking with his father on the phone. 52 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,500 His father, Herman Thompson, wants to know when he's bringing the family to Philadelphia 53 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:32,920 so he can see his grandbabies. 54 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,320 Everett promises that as soon as he can get away from work, he'll bring the family out 55 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,320 for a visit. 56 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,440 While talking on the phone, Everett gets a phone call from his wife on the other line. 57 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,240 When he answers the phone, Lydia is frantic. 58 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,520 She is home with her boys and Kenneth is, once again, chasing her around with an axe. 59 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,960 According to Herman, Everett jumps back on the line and says, quote, I gotta go home 60 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,960 right away, Dad. 61 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,740 Lydia's brother is chasing her around the house with an axe. 62 00:03:57,740 --> 00:04:00,560 She locked herself in the bedroom and called me to come home. 63 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,560 End quote. 64 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,160 Everett quickly hangs up with his dad and then tells the manager on duty that he's 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,640 leaving to go home. 66 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,380 Employees of the restaurant see Everett leave in a hurry in the family van. 67 00:04:10,380 --> 00:04:13,800 This is the last time that anyone sees or talks to Everett. 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:20,000 However, about two hours after Everett leaves, Kenneth arrives at the restaurant driving 69 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,400 the family van. 70 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,400 He tells the manager on duty that Everett was arrested after a car accident. 71 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,840 The manager notices that Kenneth is wearing white shoes and there's blood on them. 72 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,760 Over the next several days, Herman tries to get in contact with his son but is unable 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,760 to reach him. 74 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,080 He calls the family home. 75 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,080 He calls the restaurant. 76 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,280 But nobody has heard from Everett, Lydia, Everett Jr., or Andrew. 77 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:48,600 Finally, on July 17th, 1996, 12 days since Everett hurried off the phone with his father, 78 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Herman calls the Chicago police and asks that they do a welfare check on the family. 79 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,720 Police stop by the Thompson home and Kenneth tells police that the family went on vacation 80 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,320 to either Pennsylvania or Minnesota, but they drove the family van there. 81 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,120 Since the family van is also missing from the home at this time, police believe the 82 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,360 story and go ahead and leave. 83 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,280 Kenneth's story keeps changing, however. 84 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:15,140 He tells folks that the family drove to Philly, and then he tells some people that they caught 85 00:05:15,140 --> 00:05:19,400 a bus to Minnesota, and then he tells others that they flew to Hawaii. 86 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,800 At some point, it's unclear exactly when this happens, but Kenneth is pulled over while 87 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,560 driving the family van. 88 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Chicago police do not put two and two together and realize that by Kenneth driving the van, 89 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,200 he is contradicting his own story that he told the police that the Thompson family had 90 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,440 driven to Philadelphia or maybe Minnesota. 91 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Herman and Erling Thompson, that's Everett's parents, continue to worry about their son 92 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,700 and his family and decide to take matters into their own hands. 93 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:53,860 In late July of 1996, the two drive from Philly to Chicago to search for the family themselves. 94 00:05:53,860 --> 00:05:57,920 They stop by the EAT & Co. restaurant and talk with employees and learn that Everett 95 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,720 has not come back since he left after the frantic phone call from Lydia. 96 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,880 They also hear the manager's story of Kenneth showing up in the family van with blood on 97 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,860 his shoes and they call the police. 98 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:11,880 The family begs the police to investigate the Thompson's disappearance further. 99 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,640 As police check out the story that Kenneth told the EAT & Co. manager, they find no record 100 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,960 of an automobile accident or an arrest record for Everett. 101 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,640 Again, it's unclear when police discover these facts or when exactly they took place, 102 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,360 but police do figure out that Kenneth has sold the family van to a scrap yard where 103 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,080 it was immediately crushed so police are unable to examine the car. 104 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,680 And additionally, Kenneth forged his sister's signatures to sell the home that they all 105 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,040 had inherited, the house where the Thompson's were living. 106 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,960 By the time police catch up to the illegal sale of the home, the new owners have taken 107 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,160 ownership of the home and gutted the interior. 108 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,480 Lieutenant Robert Hargishmeyer says, quote, any evidence of foul play that might have 109 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,280 been in the house was now lost, end quote. 110 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:02,440 They do find the inspector's notes that happened before the sale went through. 111 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,400 The inspector noted that the kitchen floor had been ripped out and a bathtub and toilet 112 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,000 had been painted red. 113 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,960 When police visited the home on July 3rd, after Lydia called the police the first time 114 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,880 for Kenneth chasing her with an axe, the responding officers had walked through the home and said 115 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,520 that the kitchen floor was intact and that there were no red bathroom fixtures. 116 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,080 So this all happened after July 3rd and presumably after the Thompson's went missing. 117 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Kenneth White, Lydia's brother, is the prime suspect in the disappearance of the Thompson's. 118 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,080 But despite the illegal sale of the home and the family van, police do not arrest him. 119 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:46,040 On July 14th, 1997, a year after the Thompson family was last seen, police and FBI searched 120 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,880 the trailer that he was living in in Gary, Indiana, which is about an hour and 15 minutes 121 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,400 outside of Chicago. 122 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Cadaver dogs are brought in to search the property and investigators find men's gym 123 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,400 shorts and a boy's sock. 124 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Both are soaked in blood. 125 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:08,020 Still, no arrest is made until November 1997 when they arrest Kenneth for a probation violation 126 00:08:08,020 --> 00:08:10,760 for failure to register as a sex offender. 127 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,120 In December of 1997, the FBI arrests Kenneth for forging Lydia's signature on a check 128 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,600 for $13,272. 129 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,400 While being held in the Federal Metropolitan Correctional Center in downtown Chicago, Kenneth 130 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,440 dies by suicide. 131 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,240 No note was left, but the cause of death was self-inflicted. 132 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Lieutenant Robert Hargishmeyer says, quote, We believe he had a lot to do with their disappearance. 133 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,840 Now that he is dead, it is our hope that people who knew him in prison as well on the outside 134 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,440 will come forward with answers. 135 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Lieutenant Hargishmeyer continues to say, quote, If there was foul play, and we think 136 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,040 there was, it happened on July 4th, 5th, or 6th, 1996. 137 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,040 No one saw the Thompson family after that time, and Kenneth was seen driving the Thompson 138 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,240 van soon after that weekend. 139 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:05,200 The enormity of an entire family of four people missing, under dread circumstances, demands 140 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,920 a continued police presence and review. 141 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:08,920 End quote. 142 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,560 However, after Kenneth's death, I could not find any updates that the Chicago police or 143 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:18,680 the FBI have done any additional searching to recover the bodies of the Thompson family. 144 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:22,960 We do know that none of their social security numbers have been used, and Everett and Lydia's 145 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,960 credit cards and bank cards were not used except when Kenneth attempted to forge checks 146 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,560 in Lydia's name. 147 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:34,480 So with that, if you know anything about the disappearance of the Thompson family, Everett, 148 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:41,760 Lydia, Everett Jr., and Andrew, or their whereabouts today, please call the Area South Chicago Police 149 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Department at 312-747-5789. 150 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,840 And the sources for today's timeline come from the Chicago Tribune, the Tribune, the 151 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,680 Northwest Indiana Times, the Charlie Project, and the NamUs database. 152 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:00,600 So that is the disappearance of the Thompson family. 153 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:07,120 And I personally was just floored by how little information is out there. 154 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,240 I thought that there would be a lot of newspaper articles that I would have to go through that 155 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:18,040 this would make national news, but it didn't really, nothing really showed up about this 156 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,080 family until after Kenneth's death. 157 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,960 That's when I was able to find newspaper articles when they were looking back over a year later 158 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,520 at the disappearance of this family. 159 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,360 But that's four people missing. 160 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,760 Four people missing. 161 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 And there was no wide search for them. 162 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,440 There was no immediate police presence. 163 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:49,960 There was no big convoy of investigators searching near the home, around the home, nothing, nothing 164 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,720 that I could find. 165 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,660 And that's just shocking to me. 166 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:54,920 Four people are missing. 167 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:00,280 You think, you know, on a scale of resources, one case that involves four people, two of 168 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:07,960 which are very young boys, Everett Jr. and Andrew are only 11 and 8, you think that that 169 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,260 would climb up on the police priority list, but it just didn't here. 170 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:19,240 And it really seems as if Kenneth got away with four murders. 171 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:28,200 I don't know how Kenneth White was able to not be arrested after illegally selling the 172 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,200 home. 173 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,400 He owned one third of it, but the other two thirds were owned by his sisters. 174 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,320 And he forged both of their signatures to make the sale go through. 175 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,720 From my understanding, the sale was pretty quick and the new owners immediately gutted 176 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,960 the interior. 177 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:51,240 And I have to wonder, to me it seems like an obvious thing that you would talk to the 178 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,600 new owners to say, hey, can we search? 179 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,660 Was there anything there when you gutted? 180 00:11:56,660 --> 00:12:00,420 Or you know, the construction crew who I'm sure were hired out, it probably just wasn't 181 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,120 these two people, but you never know. 182 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:09,200 Like, did they notice anything strange in the house besides, you know, a red bathtub 183 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,400 and a red toilet? 184 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,040 That is very strange to me. 185 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:18,940 That's not really a color one sees and nobody paints their toilet and bathtub. 186 00:12:18,940 --> 00:12:24,400 It sounds as if it was just, you know, like household paint used and you don't use that. 187 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,520 So to me, that seems like it's trying to cover up. 188 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,440 And my first thought is that it's trying to cover up a presence of blood. 189 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,720 And if the kitchen floor was tore up, again, I would think that you are trying to hide 190 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,840 something or you couldn't clean something, you couldn't get rid of something. 191 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,560 So you have to just get rid of the floor altogether. 192 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:48,680 So my question would just be to those folks who worked on, you know, the gutting of the 193 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,240 interior, did they notice anything else odd? 194 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,880 Anything strange at all when they redid the plumbing? 195 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,560 I'm sure they did not keep the red toilet seat and the red tub. 196 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,400 Did they notice anything strange there? 197 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Was there any kind of, you know, like DNA blood type substance found in the pipes? 198 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:13,760 Like there's so many questions and it seems so glaringly obvious what happened here. 199 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,080 And I don't know, again, for the life of me why he was not arrested after an illegal sale 200 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,880 of the home and forging these signatures. 201 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,320 I'm, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that's a crime. 202 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,880 I'm pretty sure it's against the law to forge homeowner signatures to sell a home. 203 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,280 I think that's illegal in my book. 204 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:39,220 Another question that I just have is why has there been no additional searching? 205 00:13:39,220 --> 00:13:44,560 Is it just because they really don't have anywhere to go? 206 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:50,480 I mean, they have no clues as to where these four people could be? 207 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,200 That's the thing. 208 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Like there's four bodies that in theory Kenneth had to get rid of. 209 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,600 That's a lot. 210 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,600 That's a lot. 211 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,840 I would think that the reason he got rid of the car, sold it to a scrapyard and had it 212 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:17,160 immediately crushed was because that car was used to transport the family, you know, after 213 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,760 they were dead or before. 214 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 But somehow the family was in that van. 215 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,160 Obviously they had driven the van around, but I think it was used in their disappearance 216 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,720 somehow for sure. 217 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Because why else would you get rid of the car? 218 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:36,840 It just, it just really frustrates me that a family of four, of four go missing in the 219 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,760 90s and there's just no major search done for them. 220 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Everett's parents, Herman and Erlene, they try to raise the alarm pretty quickly. 221 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:51,400 They ask for a welfare check and police just take, you know, Kenneth's word at face value, 222 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,260 which like, okay, sure, sure. 223 00:14:54,260 --> 00:15:00,440 But then after they come to Chicago, Herman and Erlene and, you know, talk with the workers 224 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,920 of the restaurant that Everett and Lydia owned and hear the story of him showing up with 225 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,160 this car accident and he was arrested. 226 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,560 And then 12 days later, he's telling the police that, oh, they actually drove to maybe Philadelphia, 227 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:19,440 which is where Herman and Erlene are and they obviously didn't see their son or his family. 228 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,280 Or maybe Minneapolis or maybe they flew to Hawaii, like all these different stories. 229 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,480 It just feels like if maybe the police had taken their disappearance a little bit more 230 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,600 seriously in the beginning, that maybe we could have answers today. 231 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Maybe Kenneth wouldn't have been able to get rid of so much evidence like the car and the 232 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,660 home as quickly as he did. 233 00:15:38,660 --> 00:15:40,920 Maybe we would have answers. 234 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Obviously the police, they don't have any hope of finding the Thompsons alive. 235 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,240 And unfortunately, I agree there. 236 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,560 I don't think that the Thompsons ran away to get away from Kenneth. 237 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,840 I don't think that happened. 238 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,760 I don't think that there's a world where Everett would have just ran without telling 239 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,880 his parents who he had a really great relationship with. 240 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,960 And Lydia was close with her other sister, Phyllis. 241 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,040 And you know, the boys were obviously in school and had friends. 242 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Like I don't see them completely disappearing, going off the grid or anything like that to 243 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,320 get away from Kenneth. 244 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,760 I don't see that. 245 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,800 I think something happened to them, to all of them. 246 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:26,800 And it's insane that Kenneth was not taken into custody for selling the house, for selling 247 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,080 the car. 248 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,880 And then when they search his trailer and Gary and they find men's gym shorts and a 249 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,000 boy's sock that are soaked in blood, whose blood is that? 250 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,760 There's no answer to that. 251 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,120 And I would have to think with technology today if that, if those items are still in 252 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,760 evidence, that that is something that can be tested. 253 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:54,360 I don't know if we have the family's DNA on file, but I would almost wonder, did Kenneth 254 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,280 hurt other people in Gary, Indiana? 255 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Was he hurting people in Gary? 256 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,840 And that's why he had these blood soaked shorts and socks. 257 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Maybe they're not related at all to the Thompson's disappearance, but it's related to something. 258 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,400 Whose blood is it? 259 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:17,240 And that's a question that's never been answered that I think needs to be answered because 260 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,360 Kenneth seems to be responsible for the disappearance of four people, but are there more people 261 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:25,680 in his wake that he's also responsible for? 262 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,000 That's something that I would be curious about. 263 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:35,060 I just hope that in the future we can find the Thompson family and just bring them to 264 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:40,240 rest in a beautiful spot, not wherever they are. 265 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:46,660 And while, you know, it seems pretty clear that Kenneth was involved in their disappearance 266 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:51,440 and the cause of their disappearance, and since he did die by suicide, you know, he's 267 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:57,080 not going to stay on trial, which is why I think this is not a priority for the police 268 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,200 because the person that they would want to charge is, has already died. 269 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:07,360 So I think that's why police resources are not being used, but that just, that doesn't 270 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:08,360 seem fair to me. 271 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:15,620 That doesn't seem fair that because he dies by suicide, he doesn't get, even in death, 272 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:18,480 he should still be like held responsible. 273 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,080 I don't know if that makes sense, but it's like, people should know that he did this 274 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,720 100% with certainty and not just all of us thinking. 275 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,560 It seems pretty obvious. 276 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:35,160 He's chasing around his sister with an axe threatening to kill her. 277 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,260 It's just sad. 278 00:18:36,260 --> 00:18:37,680 It's just really sad. 279 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:45,200 And I can't get over the fact that it's a whole family, a whole family just gone. 280 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,040 You know, right now, I'm, as I'm recording this, it's, you know, it's right around the 281 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Christmas season, the new year, Thanksgiving just passed. 282 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:58,720 So you spend all this time with family and it's just so hard to imagine a family of four 283 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:06,880 going missing and no alarm being raised, no major searches, no national coverage. 284 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,880 It's really sad. 285 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,880 It's sad to me. 286 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:15,720 And I really hope that we find out what happened to the Thompson family because they, they 287 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,500 deserve answers still. 288 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:24,720 Their families, their loved ones, their cousins, their classmates, anybody who knew them, they 289 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,200 deserve answers. 290 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Well I just have 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00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,500 If you're listening to this in real time, I hope you are having a wonderful holiday 311 00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:01,660 and I hope you have a happy new year as well. 312 00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:05,360 If you're not listening to this in real time, I just hope you're having a great day. 313 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,760 Thank you again so much for listening to cold and missing. 314 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,140 I'm your host Allie. 315 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:23,680 Have a good week and stay safe, y'all.