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Cold and Missing: Marlon Santos

Cold and Missing: Marlon Santos
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Cold and Missing

Marlon Devine Santos, a 5-month-old baby, went missing on November 5, 1998. Marlon was in foster care with Yolanda and Jose Castillo when he disappeared. Yolanda left Marlon and two other foster children home alone, in an unlocked house, while she went to pick up her own children from school. When she returned, Marlon was gone. Yolanda waited over 48 hours before reporting him missing to the police. The police initially treated the case as an abduction or homicide and focused on the Castillos as suspects. However, no evidence was found, and the case remains unsolved. Jose Castillo was later charged with sexual assault of a foster child, but those are the only charges brought against him.

If you know anything about the disappearance of Marlon Santos, or his whereabouts today, please call the Worcester police at 508-799-8466

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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780 The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts. 2 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400 All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Listener discretion is advised. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,600 And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases. 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,200 Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing. 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski. 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,480 And I'll just be coming to you solo today. 11 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,120 I do want to apologize kind of at the top. 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,080 I know this episode is coming out later in the day than we normally do. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:53,800 I had a horrible migraine for the past couple days, so I tried to record and it just wasn't 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,800 sounding right. 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Again, part of respecting these stories is I want to make sure I'm always giving my best. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,840 So we are feeling better now, so I'm able to record and just get this episode out a 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,480 little bit later in the day than I normally would. 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,680 So today we are covering a missing person case. 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,600 And I just wanted to give a bit of a content warning at the top that this case does involve 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,600 a child. 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,340 There are mentions of sexual abuse and child abuse. 22 00:01:18,340 --> 00:01:21,960 So today we are covering the missing person case of Marlon Santos. 23 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:27,440 And this takes place in November of 1998 in Worcester, Massachusetts. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,200 But first a little bit about Marlon. 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Marlon Devine Santos is only five months old in November of 1998. 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,600 He was born June 5th of that year and he would be 25 years old today. 27 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,960 Marlon's parents had a whirlwind romance while they were both seeking treatment for 28 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,080 their addiction. 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,600 The romance didn't last and by the time Marlon's mother, Dina Santos, gave birth, the couple 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 had separated. 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,680 Shortly after Marlon's birth, Dina began seeking help for her addiction and seeking 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,440 out space in a shelter. 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,100 It's unclear when DSS, or the Department of Social Services, stepped in, but by August 34 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:06,640 Marlon was placed in the home of Yolanda and Jose Castillo as a foster child. 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,260 Yolanda and Jose had hosted around 50 foster children and when Marlon joined them they 36 00:02:11,260 --> 00:02:15,800 had two other foster kids, a three-year-old and a 24-month-year-old. 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,960 And then they had three of their own children who were 11, 12, and 17. 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,640 So now a timeline of events. 39 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:26,760 On Thursday, November 5th, 1998. 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,540 Early in the afternoon, Yolanda needs to leave the house to go pick up her two middle schoolers. 41 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:36,400 The babies were asleep, according to Yolanda, so she decides to leave them in the home alone 42 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,620 while she makes the trip to get her kids. 43 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:40,840 The trip took about 45 minutes. 44 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Jose was out of town, having gone to New York for a few days. 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Yolanda left the house unlocked while she was out and when she returned, between 1.30 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,520 and 2 p.m., she finds that Marlon is gone. 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,520 Neighbors said that normally Jose watched the children as he had a more flexible work 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:02,560 schedule, and they also say that on that day they see Yolanda outside searching the bushes. 49 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,920 Instead of calling the police right away, Yolanda waits until Saturday night, November 50 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:11,600 7th, over 48 hours after Marlon went missing. 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,760 She drove to the Bronx, New York that day to pick up Jose and then they go to the police 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,360 station that night. 53 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Yolanda told police that she waited so long because she didn't want to go to the police 54 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,320 without her husband and was worried about her own children getting taken away. 55 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Dina, Marlon's mother, is heartbroken and pleading on local news. 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,440 She says, quote, how DSS can have these people as foster parents, telling me I can't take 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,600 care of my son, but they give them to these people that can't do nothing either. 58 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,360 They're telling me that I can't take care of my son, but they don't know where he is, 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,780 end quote. 60 00:03:45,780 --> 00:03:52,080 On Sunday, November 9th, 1998, the Castillos, who are Pentecostal preachers, still hold 61 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,300 service Sunday morning and neighbors say that parishioners are dropped off at the Castillo 62 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:58,400 home that day as well. 63 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,240 On Monday, November 10th, Worcester police captain Paul Campbell has three theories on 64 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,280 what happened to Marlon. 65 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Either he was kidnapped, he was sold, or there was a tragic accident and Marlon is dead. 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,760 He says, quote, those are your only three options that I can see, end quote. 67 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,880 Police execute search warrants on the Castillo home and their two vehicles they have in their 68 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:27,260 possession, a brown Dodge caravan and a large passenger van that belonged to the church. 69 00:04:27,260 --> 00:04:31,380 Captain Paul Campbell says, quote, we've had sniffing dogs at the house. 70 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:35,580 We have not had any indication that there is a deceased individual in the residence 71 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:38,620 or on the property, end quote. 72 00:04:38,620 --> 00:04:43,320 Police lieutenant John McLaren says that Yolanda and Jose have stopped cooperating with the 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,000 police and have lawyered up. 74 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,680 DSS says they are assisting the police in their search for Marlon. 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,080 DSS spokesperson Lorraine Carley says, quote, we have no idea what happened here. 76 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,240 I think at this point there are definitely more questions than there are answers, end 77 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,360 quote. 78 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,440 The other two foster children that were staying with the Castillos are removed from the home 79 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,500 and placed elsewhere. 80 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:09,580 Police say that the Castillos never knocked on their door when looking for Marlon. 81 00:05:09,580 --> 00:05:15,640 As word got out of Marlon's disappearance, Marlon's father rushed to help the police. 82 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,800 William Kehanek tells the media that DSS never tried to find him when they took custody away 83 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,800 from Dina. 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,960 He says that, quote, of course I would have taken the baby, end quote. 85 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:31,480 On Wednesday, November 11th, Marlon has been missing for six days at this point. 86 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,420 Police say that they are focusing on the Castillos. 87 00:05:34,420 --> 00:05:39,320 There have been reports of abuse and neglect filed against them, but all have been unfounded, 88 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,200 according to DSS. 89 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,760 The DSS spokesperson Lorraine Carley says, quote, if you look back at the history of 90 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,240 this foster home, we don't see any smoking gun. 91 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,480 We don't know what happened here, end quote. 92 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,840 Police are treating the case as an abduction or homicide at this point. 93 00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:01,040 The detective on the case says, quote, we're investigating a possible homicide because 94 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,080 of the inconsistencies in the details provided by the foster parents, end quote. 95 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:11,000 While Dina was initially ruled out as a suspect, police become suspicious of her as she stops 96 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,040 cooperating with police and retains a lawyer. 97 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,000 The public is in outrage over the missing baby. 98 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,160 Representative Mari J. Parenti says, quote, how did we do this? 99 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,800 How did we lose a baby? 100 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,840 We need to recruit foster homes under less stress. 101 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:31,320 If the parents had no way to pick up her own children after school, they had a problem, 102 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,500 end quote. 103 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:36,800 On Thursday, November 12th, Marlon has been missing for a week and police are hopeful 104 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,320 that he is still alive. 105 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Detective John McLernan says, quote, at this point in the investigation, we believe that 106 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,440 the baby has been abducted as opposed to being murdered. 107 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,040 We're encouraged by that, end quote. 108 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,640 The New York City police are also assisting in the case since Jose had been there the 109 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,040 day that Marlon went missing. 110 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Jose's lawyer says that as soon as he got to New York City, he left for Wisconsin and 111 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,520 was not actually in the city that long. 112 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,160 The Castellos still hold church services three times a week. 113 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Jose says, quote, I'm not going to stop preaching for anything. 114 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,400 I'm a pastor, end quote. 115 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,840 However, at the Thursday night service, Jose leaves shortly before the service starts and 116 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,880 his brother, Manuel, steps in. 117 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,940 He tells the congregation that Jose had important business to attend to. 118 00:07:23,940 --> 00:07:27,920 As attention on the case grows, the public outrage is loud. 119 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,280 The public want to know why a seemingly devoted foster mother would leave three very young 120 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,100 children home in an unlocked house. 121 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:39,280 And why did she wait over 48 hours to report him missing to the police? 122 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,720 The public also want to know why Dina, who had been so public in begging for her son's 123 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,560 safety and return, would suddenly stop cooperating and retain a lawyer. 124 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,900 On Friday, November 13th, just over one week Marlon has been missing, Jose breaks his 125 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:56,540 silence and declares himself innocent. 126 00:07:56,540 --> 00:08:01,200 He says, quote, once everything clears up in this case, people will know the things 127 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,920 they have said about me are not true. 128 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,300 In due time, God will put everything into place, end quote. 129 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:12,960 The public critique of the DSS system is also very loud at this time. 130 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,180 It has come to light that Jose had federal trafficking drug charges that the DSS was 131 00:08:17,180 --> 00:08:18,620 not aware of. 132 00:08:18,620 --> 00:08:23,140 The DSS counters that the current law only allows for them to run a criminal background 133 00:08:23,140 --> 00:08:25,260 check in the state of Massachusetts. 134 00:08:25,260 --> 00:08:28,960 And since the drug trafficking charges were in Florida, they would have had no way of 135 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,200 knowing about it. 136 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,780 On Sunday, November 15th, Marlon has been missing for 10 days. 137 00:08:34,780 --> 00:08:38,640 And after saying he would never stop preaching, Jose doesn't show up to church and his brother 138 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,000 has no idea where he is. 139 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,160 As the investigation continues, and it's been almost two weeks since Marlon has disappeared, 140 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,820 the police start acting with more caution in regards to letting information out about 141 00:08:50,820 --> 00:08:51,980 this case. 142 00:08:51,980 --> 00:08:56,520 The local media obtained search warrants that the police had conducted the week before and 143 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:02,740 find that the police had collected, as evidence, a sample from a youth-sized mattress, a pillow, 144 00:09:02,740 --> 00:09:07,860 a pillowcase, a white cotton blanket, and they take swabs from the front porch to determine 145 00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:08,980 if it's blood. 146 00:09:08,980 --> 00:09:12,240 The results for this analysis are never made public. 147 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,700 On December 2nd, 1998, it's been almost a month that Marlon has been missing, but police 148 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:20,180 still feel confident that he is alive. 149 00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:24,060 Police are handling it as a disappearance case at this point, but are hesitant to call 150 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:26,040 it an abduction. 151 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,680 Police captain Paul Campbell cryptically says, quote, depends on how you would use the word 152 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:32,900 abducted, end quote. 153 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:36,980 Police do believe that the baby was either sold or given away in New York City and are 154 00:09:36,980 --> 00:09:40,100 still working with the NYPD for help in the case. 155 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:44,420 Jose maintains that he was not truly in New York City, but left for Wisconsin as soon 156 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:45,740 as he got there. 157 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:50,940 On Wednesday, December 16th, it's been almost six weeks that Marlon has been missing, and 158 00:09:50,940 --> 00:09:55,740 the Castellos' biological children are removed from their home following an abuse and neglect 159 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:56,740 report. 160 00:09:56,740 --> 00:10:01,260 However, they are returned to the home two days later, and only the 17-year-old remains 161 00:10:01,260 --> 00:10:02,760 in foster care. 162 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,620 On Monday, December 28th, Marlon has been missing for almost two months. 163 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:11,900 Jose Castillo is charged with child rape and molestation. 164 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:16,140 While looking for Marlon, police speak to former foster children of the Castellos and 165 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:18,540 uncover these allegations. 166 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:22,960 After these allegations surface, DSS try to find all of the other children that had stayed 167 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,720 in their home to see if there are any more charges that should be filed. 168 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,980 And then the case goes quiet for a little bit. 169 00:10:28,980 --> 00:10:35,140 It's not until Tuesday, October 26th, 1999, almost a year since his disappearance, that 170 00:10:35,140 --> 00:10:38,420 his case surfaces in the media again. 171 00:10:38,420 --> 00:10:45,460 The next update in Marlon's case comes nearly a year later, on Tuesday, October 26th, 1999. 172 00:10:45,460 --> 00:10:49,500 Police received a credible tip that Marlon was buried near the Huachacet Reservoir, and 173 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:53,740 police take the next week to search the reservoir and the surrounding area. 174 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:57,820 According to the police, they were acting on a tip that Marlon had been suffocated and 175 00:10:57,820 --> 00:11:00,340 buried in plastic in this area. 176 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:05,540 While police are searching, they find pieces of clothing, plastic, a diaper, and a baby 177 00:11:05,540 --> 00:11:06,540 blanket. 178 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:10,780 These items are sent for analysis to try to link back to baby Marlon. 179 00:11:10,780 --> 00:11:15,620 Police spend days searching this area and even bring in ground-penetrating radar to 180 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:21,200 search a specific plot of land, but all that's found are those items that I just mentioned. 181 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,020 On December 2nd, 1999, so it's been over a month since the police conducted their very 182 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:31,060 large search, and over a year that Marlon has been missing, the analysis of the items 183 00:11:31,060 --> 00:11:37,140 found during the search failed to find any organic matter that could be tested for DNA. 184 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:42,580 So ultimately, they can't link any of the items found during their search to Marlon. 185 00:11:42,580 --> 00:11:48,220 We do know that sometime in the year 2000, a grand jury is held in Marlon's case, but 186 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:50,220 no one is indicted. 187 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:56,020 The next update in Marlon's case comes nearly seven years later, so this is April 15th, 188 00:11:56,020 --> 00:12:00,300 2005, and Marlon has been missing for around seven years. 189 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:05,380 Jose had reached a plea deal and pleads guilty to assaulting a foster child and he is sentenced 190 00:12:05,380 --> 00:12:07,660 to six months in jail. 191 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:11,660 But other than that, there have been no updates in this case. 192 00:12:11,660 --> 00:12:17,580 So if you know anything about the disappearance of Marlon Santos or his whereabouts today, 193 00:12:17,580 --> 00:12:23,940 please call the Worcester Police at 508-799-8466. 194 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:28,500 And the sources for the timeline today come from The Telegram and Gazette, The Daily Item, 195 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:33,060 The Boston Globe, Portland Press Herald, The Day, Aethol Daily News, The Recorder, News 196 00:12:33,060 --> 00:12:34,940 Press, and The Sun Journal. 197 00:12:34,940 --> 00:12:38,100 So that is the case of Marlon Santos. 198 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:43,460 And my first reaction as I started researching this case was really anger, for lack of a 199 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:44,980 better word. 200 00:12:44,980 --> 00:12:51,260 I just couldn't wrap my head around leaving a three-year-old, a child that's only 24 months 201 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:55,780 and then five months old, alone in an unlocked house. 202 00:12:55,780 --> 00:13:00,800 I mean, just leaving them alone is crazy, but you know, that three-year-old was also 203 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,300 old enough to probably open a door and get outside if they wanted to. 204 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:11,380 So this could have been a very tragic case no matter what. 205 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:20,020 But the fact that the youngest, Marlon, went missing is just wildly irresponsible to me, 206 00:13:20,020 --> 00:13:24,540 wildly irresponsible that they were left alone for 45 minutes. 207 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:28,860 And you know, I was trying to find some compassion. 208 00:13:28,860 --> 00:13:33,580 Maybe they didn't have a car that could accommodate all of the children. 209 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:40,540 So maybe that's why Yolanda had to make this decision to leave the babies alone. 210 00:13:40,540 --> 00:13:46,400 But in my research, it says that they had, you know, a Dodge Care van, which is a minivan. 211 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:52,740 So there would have been enough seats for, you know, three car seats and then two other 212 00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:53,820 children to sit. 213 00:13:53,820 --> 00:13:56,140 Like there would have been that space. 214 00:13:56,140 --> 00:14:01,540 And they also had a passenger van at their disposal that the church that they ran technically 215 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:02,540 owned. 216 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:05,140 So that would have had more than enough seats. 217 00:14:05,140 --> 00:14:11,420 So I just, I don't understand how you reached that conclusion of leaving these babies alone 218 00:14:11,420 --> 00:14:13,700 by themselves in an unlocked house. 219 00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:20,500 And then furthermore, I don't understand why it took over 48 hours for the police to become 220 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:23,160 aware that Marlon was missing. 221 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,420 You know, we've all heard that the first 48 hours are the most important in solving a 222 00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:29,420 homicide. 223 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:33,860 And I think the same can also be said for a missing person, that the sooner you can 224 00:14:33,860 --> 00:14:40,220 get on the trail and the sooner you can start tracking the child, the less time they have 225 00:14:40,220 --> 00:14:44,100 to get away from, you know, kind of the epicenter of where it happened. 226 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:51,280 So the fact that Yolanda waited over 48 hours, but then she also left Massachusetts to drive 227 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,580 to the Bronx, New York to pick up Jose and then come back, according to police that was 228 00:14:55,580 --> 00:14:57,340 around a 10 hour trip. 229 00:14:57,340 --> 00:15:02,780 So she makes this 10 hour trip while a baby is missing that's in her care that, you know, 230 00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:05,860 that's her charge, and then goes to police. 231 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:09,580 I just find it all wildly irresponsible. 232 00:15:09,580 --> 00:15:14,500 And it really makes me angry that they made those decisions. 233 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:18,140 Because ultimately, it seems like they were just really selfish decisions. 234 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:22,720 Like she didn't want to be hassled with waking the babies, getting them in a car seat. 235 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,520 And then, you know, she didn't want to go to the police without her husband and for 236 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,380 her children to be taken away. 237 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:33,620 I don't understand why she was never, you know, charged with, you know, neglect or child 238 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:38,180 abuse because I would say that leaving three babies alone is neglect in my book. 239 00:15:38,180 --> 00:15:42,340 I don't know exactly what the laws in Massachusetts said at that time. 240 00:15:42,340 --> 00:15:51,260 But it's just crazy to me that no legal repercussions were really brought against Yolanda and Jose. 241 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:57,400 We know eventually Jose is arrested for child rape and molestation allegations and he does 242 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,100 plead guilty to assault of a foster child. 243 00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:06,240 But nothing really happens to Yolanda except that they take away the foster kids that were 244 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,560 in her care. 245 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:13,280 And we do know that they briefly take away her biological children and only the 17-year-old 246 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,580 remains in foster care. 247 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:19,340 So there's just, I have a lot of questions there and obviously we don't get to the details 248 00:16:19,340 --> 00:16:24,180 and I want to be like conscious of protecting the children in this case. 249 00:16:24,180 --> 00:16:28,020 So I just don't, I don't know how somebody does this. 250 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:29,140 I really don't. 251 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:30,200 It's just wild. 252 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,200 It's wild to me. 253 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,200 It's wild. 254 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,940 It's very interesting to me that in the beginning, you know, those first few months after Marlon 255 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:44,480 is missing, the police really do seem sure that he's alive still, which is really encouraging. 256 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,760 They believe that he was either given away or sold. 257 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,400 That's kind of what I picked up through all the reporting and through the quotes from 258 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,740 the police. 259 00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:58,260 So if that were the case, by all accounts, Marlon would still be alive today. 260 00:16:58,260 --> 00:17:03,560 He would be 25 years old and he would have possibly grown up in the New York City area. 261 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:09,100 We do know that the Worcester police work with the NYPD because they do believe that 262 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:12,300 something happened while Jose was in New York. 263 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:17,820 And if that's the case, then Marlon was missing long before November 5th because we know that 264 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:22,340 Jose goes to the Bronx on October 31st. 265 00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:27,880 So that would have meant that Marlon was missing for nearly a week by the time that he was 266 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,300 reported to police as being missing. 267 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:35,840 Now it does seem like it shifts a little bit, you know, the next year when Worcester police 268 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,120 start conducting these searches near the reservoir. 269 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:44,560 And at that time, they believe that Marlon had been suffocated and buried in plastic, 270 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,440 which is a lot different than being sold or given away in New York City. 271 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:56,320 I am curious if the police still think that the items found at the reservoir during that 272 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,680 search are related to the case at all. 273 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:06,480 We know that they are unable at that time to find organic matter to test for DNA, so 274 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,140 they couldn't conclusively link it back to Marlon at that time. 275 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:13,980 But I wonder if today if those items are still in their possession, if that is something 276 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:18,520 that they maybe could retest with testing being more sensitive. 277 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,040 I wonder if there's any hope in retesting that evidence to see if any of that was connected 278 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,040 to Marlon. 279 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,600 But police seem to think that it was a very credible tip, and it really shifted the way 280 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,800 they talked about Marlon's disappearance. 281 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,280 The police captain Paul Campbell did say that there was a small glimmer of hope that Marlon 282 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:43,440 was still alive, but it seems that they really thought that he was buried somewhere near 283 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,440 there. 284 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,900 And you know, they bring out all of the big guns, so to speak, in this search. 285 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:53,860 They have the ground penetrating radar, they have sniffer dogs, they had over 75 officers 286 00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:59,520 out there searching, so it was a very extensive search, but they still didn't recover Marlon 287 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,520 at all. 288 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:09,240 So I do wonder if that is a reality, if that is really what happened to him, or if he was 289 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,040 sold or given away. 290 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:18,040 But with that, I would just wonder how Yolanda and Jose, you know, if they did sell Marlon 291 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,960 or give him away, I just wonder how they thought they were going to get away with it. 292 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,320 They obviously had, they had around 50 foster children before Marlon, so they knew that, 293 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,760 you know, there's caseworkers that will come and see them and visit the home, and DSS would 294 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,680 come and check the home from time to time. 295 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,500 And in November, in the first few weeks of November, there was actually going to be a 296 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:46,900 hearing about if Dina should regain custody of Marlon. 297 00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:51,880 So it was going to come to light one way or the other that Marlon was not there, not that 298 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,720 any baby should just be given away, but Marlon was certainly not theirs to be doing that 299 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,000 with. 300 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:04,560 So just lots of questions in this case, and it's ultimately just extremely tragic all 301 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,560 the way around. 302 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,240 You know, Jose ended up not being a good foster father. 303 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,640 He was taking advantage of the children placed in his care. 304 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:20,040 And if it's any indication of the treatment of the children, how they just left these 305 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:25,040 three babies, I don't think it would be hard to venture that children were probably left 306 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:31,120 alone a lot then if she felt comfortable enough to leave three babies alone for 45 minutes. 307 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:35,200 I would, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that that was not her first time doing 308 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,200 that. 309 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:43,440 My future hopes in this case, you know, I just, I deeply hope that Marlon was given 310 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,940 to a family that really wanted a baby and he was well taken care of and raised as one 311 00:20:48,940 --> 00:20:50,240 of their own. 312 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:57,280 I think that's the best case scenario, short of his mother and father getting custody of 313 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,280 him. 314 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:04,100 But you know, the alternative is that he was killed in either purposefully or some accident 315 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,480 and then it was all covered up. 316 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:11,280 So truly, I hope that if he couldn't be with his parents who both really wanted him and 317 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:18,680 were, you know, working on overcoming their addiction and wanting to get him back, I hope 318 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,080 that he was raised in a very loving home where they adored him. 319 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,280 And you know, with, you know, the DNA tests that you can do at home now, you know, the 320 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,600 23andMe, the Ancestry.com, like all of that stuff. 321 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:37,640 I wouldn't be surprised if later down the line, if Marlon does do a test with his family 322 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,400 and he realizes that maybe he's not related to the people that he thought. 323 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:50,200 I mean, that would be very tragic and I imagine like soul crushing to Marlon. 324 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,280 But I think that could be an outcome in this case to find out where he is and what happened 325 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:03,360 to him is if he does a DNA test at home that leads him to uncover the truth about who he 326 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:04,360 really is. 327 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:10,000 And again, I don't want to like put that lightly because that would be devastating to find 328 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,800 out, you know, in your 20s or 30s that the people you called family your whole life weren't 329 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:23,060 actually your family and that you had been sold or given away when your mother and father 330 00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:24,580 really wanted you. 331 00:22:24,580 --> 00:22:27,080 That would be difficult and I don't want to understate that. 332 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,760 But I think that could be a way that this case closes as well. 333 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,960 But again, if you know anything about the disappearance of Marlon Santos or his whereabouts 334 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:44,320 today, please call the Worcester police at 508-799-8466. 335 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,200 And again, I just want to remind all our listeners that if you're not following us on Instagram, 336 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,320 I always post updates if an episode is going to be late or come out on a different day. 337 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,920 Today I had it up in our stories that the episode was coming out later on Thursday. 338 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,240 So please follow us there. 339 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,220 We'll also be posting the baby pictures that I was able to find of Marlon. 340 00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:07,040 So we'll have those up as well. 341 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