Cold and Missing: Marisa Lee Rose

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also contains adult themes and languages. Listener

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discretion is advised. I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin

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-Sulkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover

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cold cases and missing person cases. Hello, everyone,

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and welcome back to Cold and Missing. I'm your

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host, Ali . And I'm your co -host, Eli. Welcome

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back, everyone. And welcome back to me, because

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I was out last week. Yes, Eli is back, and we

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are here to bring you a cold case. That's right,

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and we are on episode 131 this week. So let's

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go ahead and just get into it. So just as a quick

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content warning, there are some brief mentions

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of sexual assault. Today, we are talking about

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the cold case of Marisa Lee Rose, and this takes

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place in July of 2001 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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But first, a little bit about Marisa. Marisa

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is 24 years old in 2001. She had grown up in

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New Jersey, but moved to South Philly a few years

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before her timeline picks up. She had bought

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a house on the 1500 block of South 26th Street.

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She lived there by herself. Marisa was married,

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but her husband, Stokely Orlando Rose, was serving

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time in a New Jersey prison for drug offenses.

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Marisa kept to herself, but always offered her

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neighbors a wave when she saw them out. They

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would see her sitting on her front porch with

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her cat smoking cigarettes. She would often stop

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by the pizza place that was on the corner of

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her street. Neighbors remember her for her sense

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of style. More than one neighbor mentioned that

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she was always very well -dressed. Marisa worked

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as a hairdresser at Regis Hairstyles at the Springfield

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Mall in Delaware. She had dreams of owning her

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own studio one day. Marisa had worked hard to

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get here. She had dropped out of school at 16

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years old. In order to make money and save for

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beauty school, She would be hired for private

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parties as an exotic dancer as a young teenager.

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She quit dancing when she met her future husband.

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Her parents didn't know about this before the

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timeline starts. On top of cutting hair, she

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would also flip cars. Neighbors said she would

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park them in front of her house. She had recently

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sold a Volkswagen Jetta and wanted to use part

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of the money to take a vacation to the Caribbean.

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Marisa was someone who was always fun to be

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around. She was the friend that you would call

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when you were having a bad day, as she had a

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way of making you feel lighter. The conversation

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would always end in a good place. Marisa was

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extremely loyal, loyal to her family and friends.

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She was extremely close to her parents and sister

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and protective over her nephew. She talked on

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the phone with her family nearly every day. Her

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father, Dennis Torrey, says, quote, To raise

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a person as precious as Marisa is more than

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anything a father could ever wish for. As a young

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girl, she would always play with her dolls. She

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was into makeup and cosmetology. I'm so proud

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that she's gotten as far as she did with her

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career. And now a timeline of events. On July

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3, 2001, so the day before the 4th of July, this

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is the last day that Marisa sees her family.

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She had visited her parents and sister in New

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Jersey and had spent the day dyeing her sister's

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hair. On Monday, July 9, 2001, Marisa talks

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on the phone with her husband after 10 p .m.

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Again, her husband is serving time in prison.

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This is the last known contact that anyone has

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with Marisa. The next day, Tuesday, July 10,

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2001, Marisa's family start calling her after

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9 a .m. which was normal for the tight -knit

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family. But what was strange is that no one could

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get a hold of Marisa, not her dad or mom or

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her sister. Her family grows more and more concerned

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throughout the day as each one of their phone

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calls goes unanswered. The next day, Wednesday,

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July 11, 2001, after not hearing from Marisa,

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her father and sister decide to head into Philly

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and check on her at her home. They get to her

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house around 9 .30 in the morning. They knock

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on the doors and windows, but Marisa doesn't

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answer. Her younger sister, Nicole, ends up prying

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a window open and climbing inside to get in.

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She unlocks the front door for her dad and they

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start checking the house. As Nicole and Dennis

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are checking the house, they make the horrifying

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discovery of Marisa. They find her in the basement.

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She was lying on her stomach. She had been shot

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once in the back of the head and looked as if

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she had been beaten. Her hands were tied behind

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her back with duct tape. She also had duct tape

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on her mouth and ankles. Her pants and underwear

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had been pulled down around her knees. Police

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respond to a 911 call around 9 .45 a .m. The

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neighborhood where Marisa lived was a block

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of row homes. There was some drug problems in

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the neighborhood, but rarely any violence like

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this. When police arrive, they begin to process

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the scene. They believe that Marisa had been

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dead for more than 24 hours when they found her.

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Based on how she was found, they assume that

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she had been sexually assaulted. The house is

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a mess. It had been ransacked. Captain Thomas

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Lippo with the Philadelphia PD says, quote, We're

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not sure if there was forced entry at this point.

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We can tell you the house appears ransacked.

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investigators will have to work through the home

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to determine if anything was stolen. However,

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they do know right away that her 1999 silver

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mercury trace was stolen. She had rented the

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car from Alamo Renta Car as she had gotten in

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a wreck the week beforehand and was using the

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rental car to get around. Her family is shocked

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by her murder. Her father says, quote, she was

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fragile and little and beautiful and some bastard

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took her away from me. Some low life, some son

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of a bitch. It is so hard to describe seeing

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her there. It's a total loss. I felt empty inside

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as if a piece of me was no longer there. We were

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very, very close. She's my number one baby. She

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always will be. The neighbors are shocked by

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the murder of their well -dressed neighbor. A

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friend of Marisa's who worked around the corner

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at a barber shop says, quote, this is real shocking

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that anybody would do that to her. This is a

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real calm block. The next day, Thursday, July

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12th, Marisa's autopsy is conducted. It confirms

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that the cause of death was a bullet to the back

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of the head. Her autopsy shows that there were

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no apparent signs of sexual assault, but they

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are still waiting on further testing. To date,

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police have never confirmed if she was or was

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not assaulted. but today on their website, they

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do not mention sexual assault as part of her

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murder. Police don't have any suspects this early

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in the investigation, but they are chasing down

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some leads. It comes to light that U .S. Marshals

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had visited Marisa's home a few weeks before

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her murder. They were looking for a fugitive

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who had escaped from a halfway house, Patrick

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Brown. Brown was an associate of her husband's,

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but Marisa had told them that she didn't know

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where he was. After her murder, the marshals

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returned to the neighborhood, presuming to continue

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to search for Brown, but it's never really mentioned

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anymore after this. Police are looking into Marisa's

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husband's other associates to see if any of them

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could have been involved in her murder as part

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of retaliation. Marisa's husband had cooperated

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with authorities previously, and they thought

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that Marisa's murder could be in retaliation

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of that. Police are also trying to determine

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if the murderer had forced their way inside or

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if Marisa had let them in. To date, police have

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never been firm on this detail. Another question

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that they have, was there only one killer or

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multiple? Her father believes that there had

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to be more than one person because, quote, she

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was physically strong and street smart. On Friday,

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July 13th, 2001, so it's been two days since

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Marisa was found, and police get a break in

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the case. They are able to locate the stolen

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rental car. A resident in the Olney neighborhood

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spots Marisa’s stolen vehicle and calls police.

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The Olney neighborhood, or Olney as I've also

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heard it pronounced, is about a 20 -minute drive

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north of Marisa's apartment. The neighbor spotted

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the car just after 8 a .m. Police tow the vehicle

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to a crime lab so techs can go through the car

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and try to get any evidence. Police say, quote,

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maybe she was transported in the vehicle. Maybe

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she was killed in the vehicle. Anything's possible.

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We do know that police are able to pull fingerprints

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from the car, but to date there has never been

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any confirmed matches. Police at this point have

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also made progress going through the ransacked

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home. Police say that the intruder, or intruders,

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seem to focus on the second floor bedroom specifically.

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Police say, quote, Her wedding band wasn't there.

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Neither was her engagement ring. Marisa was

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also known to wear her husband's wedding band

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while he was locked up, and this was missing

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as well. As the days press on, police announce

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that they do have a suspect. It's an associate

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of her husband's that is also serving time in

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prison. They don't name the suspect, but they

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believe he could have targeted Marisa in retaliation

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against her husband. Her sister Nicole said,

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quote, Police also say that they have other leads

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that are pointing them in different directions.

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Quote, But no suspect is ever named by police.

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No one is ever arrested. The case appears to

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go cold very quickly. In February of 2002, so

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seven months after the murder, Crime Stop offers

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a $2 ,000 reward for information leading to the

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arrest of the killer. However, the media really

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stops covering her case fairly quickly, and I

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couldn't find any updates after 2002. So if you

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know anything about the murder of Marisa Rose

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in 2001, please call the Philadelphia Police

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at 215 -686 -8477. So that is the case of Marisa

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Lee Rose. I really loved hearing about Marisa's

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aesthetic and personality and what she did for

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both what seemed for a living and for joy. I

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was happy listening to you talk about her. My

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mom was a hairdresser, so I grew up. And I had

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a little salon in my childhood home in our basement.

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And I just grew up around hairstylists and hairdressers

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and in that environment. And it's kind of a whole

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culture in its own. So she immediately felt familiar

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to me. So it's really sad to me to know that

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she's not here anymore because, I don't know,

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she sounded awesome, like badass, flipping cars.

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going after what she wanted in life. I don't

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know. Yeah, I'm sad because, you know, no one

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should depart this world in the way that she

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did. But with that, you know, I'm very glad to

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know this case now. Her father seems like an

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incredible advocate for her. So I'm... I'm just

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really interested to dig in more about the case

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with you. Yeah, this is one of those instances

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where I had more information on the person than

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the actual crime, which is always a joy in a

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lot of ways to know more about the person than

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the last days of their life to just really get

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a full picture of them. Unfortunately, it's not

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the case. Every case we cover, sometimes we know

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very little about the victim in the story. But

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here with Marisa, I agree. I felt like I got

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to know a bit of her and could really sense like

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her vibe, you know, like the aura that she would

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cast around her. Like I could really feel that

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through the way her family talked about her.

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You mentioning her family. Yeah, it seemed like

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they had an incredible family dynamic. all up

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in each other's lives and living near each other

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and connected. Honestly, talking about them makes

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me want to get into the timeline a bit because

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when they show up to her place, when you were

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talking about how they just kind of broke in,

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I said out loud to myself, of course they did.

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It's instinctual. It's automatic. It seemed like

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they were that type of family. Like they knew

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something was wrong. But I wanted to talk about,

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you know, what happened and that moment a little

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bit more with you. But if you want to move backwards

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a little bit in the timeline, I wanted to clarify

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some things. Just the details of what was happening

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the day before they got into her place. And,

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you know, the last known bits. Yeah, so there's

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really not a lot known. We know that her last

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contact comes on Monday, July 9th at 10 p .m.

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or after 10 p .m., I believe. She was talking

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on the phone with her husband. So that is the

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last known contact we have. I don't have any

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details surrounding what the conversation was

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like or, you know, if anything was discussed

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that maybe is pertinent to the case. I believe

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the phone call would have been recorded since

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he's in. So that would have likely been known

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to investigators. But then it appears that the

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next day, starting very early in the morning,

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her family couldn't get a hold of her anymore.

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So based off of what police say, when they find

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her the next day on July 11th, they believe she

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had been dead for over 24 hours at that point.

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So that would put time of death roughly. After

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the phone call with her husband, like kind of

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through that night. So that's what I gather based

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off the information. But police never really

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officially give a timeline. And her family marks

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her date of death as July 11th, the date she

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was found. So I do just want to like say that

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and honor that. I've spoken about before that

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details of cold cases are. I think a baseline,

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of course, it's difficult for anyone to digest

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and listen to, but everyone has varying levels

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of that, and my threshold is just very small.

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And this was one of those times. It's almost

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like my brain works very, very hard to try to

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not comprehend it. like to almost like pretend

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it isn't happening. Even though I'm just listening

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to you tell me this, immediately I think I try

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to protect my mind from that information because

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I don't want to think about that. And, you know,

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I don't think that they would, you know, listen

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to this. Or maybe they do. I don't know. I don't

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know how families of... Loved ones in this circumstance

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navigate that kind of thing, but I'm just so

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sorry. So, so sorry. Because it's, I don't know,

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Al, unimaginable. Yeah, Marisa seemed to have

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a pretty violent death. And, you know, we know

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her family breaks in when they can't get a hold

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of her. And I think partly to what would have

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motivated them if the house was ransacked, it

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likely looked a little chaotic inside, maybe

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even from where they could see, you know, on

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the front porch. So, you know, it makes complete

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sense to me that, you know, her family would

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try to get in right away. But it is devastating

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that. they were the ones to find her body in

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that condition and have to take her in in that

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way because it's something that they can never

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unsee. So that is deeply devastating. You know,

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knowing the details, obviously, you know, sadness

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and horror and shock, and I also had the response

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of, Very, very heated and enraged, honestly,

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which makes me feel motivated to do my own investigating

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in this case. And it seems like maybe her case

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calls for that. You know, at the very least,

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she deserves that, like more energy, a little

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bit more eyes on her case. Because it's not that

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I want to know specifically who did this. I just

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want them held. Which is where I have some more

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questions for you, which is what do you think?

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To me, it reads as that it was someone that maybe

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she knew. I think there's still so much left

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to the unknown that it's hard to say. The house

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was ransacked. So to me, that's a lot of chaos.

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We know it was kind of focused on the second

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floor bedroom. Is there in that chaos evidence

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of a fight, a physical fight of retaliation?

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That's something I have a question about. And,

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you know, police have never said if there was

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forced entry or, you know, if she could have

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let the person in. But this kind of got me spinning

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in a whole other direction of there's a lot of

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ways to get somebody to open a door and then

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force your way in without. breaking a window,

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jimmying a lock, you know, kicking in a door,

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like those very obvious forces of entry. So I

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think sometimes, and I think I'm guilty of this

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too, when I'm looking at a case and it says there

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were no signs of forced entry, I kind of start

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to assume that maybe it was somebody they knew.

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But I think there's a lot of ways to get somebody

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to open their door without force. You know, I

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know it's a rumor, but With the serial killer,

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Derek Todd Lee, you know, there was that rumor

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that kind of surrounded him that he would play

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a baby crying and to get women to open their

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door. That's a rumor, but it's very much tied

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to his case because of pop culture. But that

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kind of stuff happens, like, not all the time,

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but someone can yell fire. Someone can knock

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on your door and say they're having car trouble.

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They need to use a phone, especially in 2001

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before cell phones were super prevalent. So there's

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just a lot of ways to get someone to open a door.

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It just leaves me with a lot of questions, so

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I'd love to sit down and just see the case file

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and know everything about the case to kind of

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see what do investigators know and what do they

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not know. Well, you know, I couldn't agree more,

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honestly, just listening to you and thinking

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about, you know, opening the door to our home.

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I'm a pretty... small I'm a pretty petite guy

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and if I wasn't uh thinking if I wasn't trying

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to you know brace the door yeah a hundred percent

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very easily you could be knocked backwards because

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you're not trying to stop anything because you

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don't know so yeah um thank you for like giving

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me a different perspective because again it It

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can be so easily pointed, but really, because

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there is limited information in this case, especially

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details about the timeline, it's a vast possibility.

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I'm just very grateful that, again, like I said

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earlier, that you brought it to our attention

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and that our listeners do what they do and share

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it with folks. and get Marisa's name out there.

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Yeah, this is definitely a case that I really

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hope gains some traction and people start covering

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it, people start talking about it and get some

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energy behind her case. So that way police will

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put some resources towards it and try to open

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it back up and get some answers for her family,

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for her nephew, for everyone that loved her.

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2001 doesn't feel like that long ago. So it definitely

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feels like... There's still people out there

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who could know something about this case, could

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know something, heard something. And you know,

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if you're new here and maybe think we shared

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too many details about Marisa's case, our thinking

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here is that we want to share as much information.

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that we can because we never know what someone

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might have slipped up and said one night when

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they were drunk or on drugs or even sleeping.

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We never know what someone will say in rage or

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admit things to somebody, like what details will

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slip up over the years. So I try to give every

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detail that I can as a way to try to bring answers

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and closures to the case. But again, if you know

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anything about the murder of Marisa in 2001,

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please call the Philadelphia Police at 215 -686

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-8477. As always, I will be providing graphics

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of Marisa. They'll be up on our Instagram, at

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coldandmissing. They will also be up on our website,

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you there and then also on our website our transcripts

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in case you or someone you love is hard of hearing

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you can find the official transcripts to all

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of our episodes on there um as well as all of

00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:15.130
our old episodes and then if you could take a

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podcast out there and getting Marisa's case

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out there. So if this was a case that you hadn't

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heard of before, maybe give us a review, maybe

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share it on your social network, whatever it

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feels good for you, feels good to me. So thank

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you. But that is all I have for you today. Thank

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you so much for listening to Cold and Missing.

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I'm your host, Ali. And I'm your co -host,

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Eli. Have a good week and stay safe, y 'all.

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Stay safe, y 'all.