Cold and Missing: Levi Frady


Eleven-year-old Levi Frady loved being outdoors riding his red and black bike through the woods, fishing, and exploring the quiet backroads of Forsyth County, Georgia. On an ordinary Wednesday in October 1997, Levi left home to do homework with a friend. He was supposed to be home by dinner, but he never made it back. By the next afternoon, Levi’s red bike was found in a ditch, and just hours later, his body was discovered 15 miles away in the Dawson Forest. Twenty-eight years later, Levi’s case remains unsolved. Join Ali as she goes over this heart breaking cold case.
*** If you know anything about the murder of LEvi Frady please the Georgia Bureau if Investigation tip line at 1-800-587-8471 ***
Sources:
The Atlanta Journal, The Times, The Atlanta Constitution, and the GBI
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discretion is advised. I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin
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-Sulkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Sulkowski.
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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover
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get into this week's episode. We are on a cold
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case this week, and this is episode 146. And
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just as a bit of a content warning at the top,
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this case does involve a young person. Today,
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we are talking about the cold case of Levi Frady,
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and this takes place in Forsyth County, Georgia,
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in October of 1997. But first, a little bit about
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Levi. Levi was just 11 years old in October of
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1997. He lived with his mother, Marilyn, and
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his twin sister, Lacey, on Burris Mill Road,
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a quiet rural stretch of Forsyth County, Georgia.
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Levi loved the country and loved living in such
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a rural environment. He loved spending time outdoors.
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Levi's parents were separated, but Levi and his
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sister still saw their dad quite often and thought
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the world of him. Levi loved exploring the woods
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near his home, riding his beloved red and black
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bicycle to visit friends, and enjoyed shooting
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his BB gun in the open fields. He was curious,
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adventurous, and full of life. His grandfather,
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Lamar Frady, once said, That bicycle up there
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was his best friend. That's all he had. Levi
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loved pizza, his grandmother's pancakes, fishing,
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roller coasters, and was teaching himself to
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play his grandmother's piano. He was scared of
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the dark. That Halloween, he wanted to be G .I.
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Joe. Those who knew Levi remembered his smile
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and energy. His children's minister, Joseph Hamley,
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described him as, quote, he could bring a smile
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to your heart very easily. And now a timeline
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of events. Wednesday, October 22nd, 1997. This
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was a pretty notable day. It was the fifth day
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of the World Series. Levi had a regular day at
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school, and after school, at around 4 .15, he
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left home on his bike to go to his friend Roman's
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house. The two of them had planned to do their
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homework together. Levi was expected to be home
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at 6 .30 in time for dinner. According to some
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reports, Levi does call home at one point. His
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mom was in the bathtub, so his twin sister picked
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up. Levi asked his sister to ask their mom if
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it would be okay if he stayed for dinner with
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a different friend. Him and Roman were going
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to go to a third friend's house for dinner. Marilyn
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told Lacey to tell Levi to come home. When 6
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.30 rolled around, Levi's curfew, he didn't walk
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through the front door. At first, his mother
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and sister weren't worried. He had been late
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before. He had pushed that 6 .30 time more than
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once. However, by 7, they started to worry a
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little bit. The minutes kept ticking by. Finally...
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A little bit after 7, Marilyn and Lacey decided
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to go out and get Levi and bring him home for
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dinner. While they're out, Lacey was the first
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to spot Levi's bike. It was lying in a ditch
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on Little Mill Road, about a mile from their
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home. The kickstand was folded up, and the tires
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were slightly low, but that was normal for Levi's
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bike. He liked a softer landing when he went
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off of a ramp. According to Lacey, Her mother
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didn't really have a reaction when they found
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the bike. We do know that Marilyn and Lacey go
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to Roman's house at about 7 .15. Roman tells
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them that Levi had left around 7. Roman tells
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them that he had watched his friend pedal off
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down Crow Road. If Levi had taken Crow Road,
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it would have been the longer route home. However,
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Levi usually took the longer route. There were
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some big barking dogs on the shorter way that
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he liked to avoid. Marilyn decides to try the
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third friend's house, the friend that Levi wanted
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to have dinner with. She thought that maybe he
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went to go have dinner anyway, even though she
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had said no. When Marilyn arrives at the house,
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she knocks on the door and waits, but nobody
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comes and answers the door. She assumes that
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the family must have gone out for dinner and
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taken Levi with them. With that thought, she
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turns around and takes her and Lacey home. Marilyn
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stays up waiting, but eventually she does fall
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asleep. In the early hours of Thursday, October
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23rd, Marilyn wakes up around 2 a .m. She realizes
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that Levi has not come home. She went back out.
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She goes back to that third friend's house and
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knocks on the door. But at that early hour, nobody
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answers. Marilyn thinks that everyone must be
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inside and asleep. She assumes that her son is
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also safe inside the home, sleeping. However,
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the morning didn't bring any signs of Levi. He
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didn't come home, and he didn't show up for school.
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By 8 .30 a .m., Marilyn decides to call the police
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and report him missing. Very quickly, about 100
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officers and volunteers begin searching the area
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around Levi's home and where the bike was found.
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They really focus on where the bike was found
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first, spanning out from that area. For seven
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hours, they combed thick brush and undergrowth,
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but found no clues of where Levi might be. Until
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around 2 .30 that afternoon. At around 2 .30,
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Three hunters in the Dawson Forest Wildlife Management
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Area, which was about 15 miles from where Levi
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was last seen, they make a devastating discovery.
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They find Levi. He is still fully clothed. He's
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laying face up, but a portion of his upper body
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had been submerged in water that had gathered
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in a pit. About 20 feet away from the body was
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a large pool of blood, and a few feet from there
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was Levi's backpack. The hunters head out of
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the woods and flag down a police car to report
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the findings as quickly as they can. Police halt
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the search for Levi and head over to the woods.
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Police at first are not able to determine a cause
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of death, so they decide to wait on an autopsy
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before announcing anything officially. They start
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searching that wooded area for clues. We do know
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that they are able to collect some evidence.
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For instance, we do know that they are able to
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create a cast of tire tracks found in that area.
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The day after finding Levi's body, Friday, October
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24th, his autopsy is conducted. He had been fatally
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shot. But police don't release details at this
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time. They don't say how many times he had been
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shot or where. Preliminary autopsy results showed
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no signs of sexual assault. Ballistic experts
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began working to identify the type of firearm
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that was used, but again, police refused to disclose
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specifics. However, after the autopsy, authorities
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emphasized that Levi's death was not an accident.
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It was a homicide. The rural community was reeling.
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Crimes against children simply did not happen
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in this area. Parents no longer let children
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walk alone from bus stops, and neighbors kept
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a vigilant eye on one another. Marilyn was devastated.
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But this was not the first person she had lost
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in this way. Her father had been shot and killed
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15 years earlier, though police confirmed that
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there was no connection between these two cases.
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On Saturday, October 25th, police get to work
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interviewing families, friends, and neighbors.
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Police consider everyone a suspect but truly
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believe that Levi's killer was known to him because
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statistically, that is the most likely scenario.
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We know that Marilyn is interviewed for hours
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and she's given a polygraph test at some point.
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In addition, police are also wanting to question
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Levi's dad, Milton. However, Milton was laying
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low. He had an outstanding warrant for burglary
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charges from a few years before Levi's murder,
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so he was trying to avoid the police at this
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time. On Sunday, October 26, just three days
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after his body was found, Levi is laid to rest.
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Hundreds show up to pay respects to the little
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boy, so much so that they're spilling out of
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the church and into the lobby and hallways. Police
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are at the funeral, and they're looking for Milton
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to question him. However, Milton skips his son's
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funeral out of fear of the police. On Monday,
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October 27th, this is the day after the funeral,
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and police are still very tight -lipped about
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specifics in this case. It does seem like they
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were able to determine what kind of gun was used,
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but they don't give us any details. No caliber.
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No casings, no bullet type, nothing. We don't
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have any details about what type of gun was used.
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Police continue to interview family, friends,
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and neighbors, but they keep running into dead
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ends. No one is emerging as a suspect at this
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point. On Wednesday, October 29th, just shy of
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a week of Levi's murder, and Milton turns himself
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in to police. Police question him for hours,
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and ultimately, they rule him out as a suspect
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in his son's murder. However, they do arrest
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him on the outstanding warrant and take him to
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jail. We also know on this day that police are
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desperate for a lead or a break in the case.
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They set up roadblocks near where Levi's bike
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was found and stop every car that passes by.
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They ask every driver where they were on the
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night that Levi was murdered and compare tires
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to the tire track treads that they were able
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to get from the crime scene. However, nothing
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comes of this. We do know that police were able
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to get other evidence. They mentioned that all
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of the evidence collected is a priority at the
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state lab. However, we have no details on what
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kind of evidence was collected or if there were
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any results, such as DNA, that was collected
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as a result of the testing. On Halloween that
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year, the mood is somber in Forsyth County. Levi
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was not able to go as the G .I. Joe he wanted
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to, and parents keep an eye on all of the trick
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-or -treaters that evening. Police continued
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the investigation. Police say at about a week
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that they have interviewed over 200 people, but
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they still don't have any leads or suspects in
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the case. Investigators explored the possibility
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that Levi's murder was retaliation against his
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father due to past criminal involvement, but
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there was no strong evidence suggesting this.
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On November 5, 1997, two weeks since the murder,
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police released sketches of two men they hoped
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would come forward so that way they could talk
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to them. One of the men does end up coming forward
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and police question him and he gives some information
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to police and police run it down. Nothing really
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comes out of that. The man is ruled out as, you
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know, any person of interest or suspect in the
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case and he doesn't have anything to add that
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helps Levi's case. The other man, according to
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police, was seen in the Dawson Forest Wildlife
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Management Area around the time of Levi's murder.
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He's described as a white male. He would have
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been around 45 to 55 years old. He was clean
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-shaven and was around 6 foot. Slim build with
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white or gray hair. The man was driving a 1980
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to 1985 medium blue Toyota two -wheel drive pickup
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truck with a white camper shell over the bed
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of the truck. To date, police have never been
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able to find this man to talk to him about Levi's
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case. On November 9th, police confirm that they
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believe that Levi was abducted. They believe
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Levi had been taken off of his bike and driven
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to the woods and then he was killed in the woods.
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The family tell media that they had been told
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that Levi was shot in the head. The next update
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comes on December 20th, 1997, so this would be
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nearly two months after Levi's murder. His family
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and friends are faced with the first holiday
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without him. Investigators do believe that Levi
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got into the car voluntarily. They don't think
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that he was forced off of his bike and into the
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car. Therefore, police think that Levi recognized
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the person driving the car. But beyond that,
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they don't really have a lead. Levi's family
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thinks this is preposterous. They don't think
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that anyone in Levi's life would do this to the
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little boy. On January 9th, 1998, So it's been
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over two months since Levi's murder, and police
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release another sketch of another person that
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they would like to talk to. According to police,
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around 6 .30, a witness saw a man walking along
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Little Mill Road the day that Levi was abducted.
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He was a white male in his late 50s with a scruffy
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gray beard. He was wearing a faded blue baseball
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cap and walked with a stoop. Police believe that
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he could be the key to unlocking the case. They
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think this man must have seen who took Levi,
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since Levi's bike was found on Little Mill Road.
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In June of 1998, so it's been nine months since
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Levi's murder, and Marilyn talks with the media
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for the first time. She says that everything
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that she kind of knows about Levi's case, she
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learned through the questions that police gave
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her during the polygraph test. For example, she
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says the police would ask her, Did you know that
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Levi was shot three times? Because of this, she
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believes that her son was shot three times. She
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tells the media she believes it's twice in the
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chest and once in the head, based off of the
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questions that police had asked her. However,
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really after this, the case appears to really
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go cold for years. The first anniversary in October
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of 1998 comes and goes without any new information.
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In October of 1999, so that's the two -year anniversary,
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the GBI is still working on the case. But they
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say that it is one of the rarest cases they've
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ever had. GBI profiler Jim Hallman says, quote,
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We've never had another case in the country where
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a child was taken and murdered for no apparent
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reason. It's as if somebody rode down the road
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and spirited him away. In April of 2000, a task
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force is created following a petition from over
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2 ,000 local residents asking for closure in
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Levi's case. The task force does seem to get
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together and work on Levi's case. They go over
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all the information they have, but the GBI isn't
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involved in the task force. They're invited,
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but they decide not to participate. The task
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force is made up of Forsyth and Dawson County
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police. However, it doesn't appear that the task
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force really finds any new information. In 2002,
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it's been five years since Levi's murder, and
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Georgia implemented an Amber Alert system named
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in Levi's honor. It's called Levi's Call in Georgia.
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Levi's Call has gone on to recover many abducted
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children in Georgia, which is amazing. In 2017,
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so that's 20 years since Levi was murdered. And
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his mother reflected, quote, There's still nothing
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after all this time. I've heard so many rumors.
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I know that somebody knows. It has to have been
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more than one person that knows. To me, it's
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just mind -boggling. His twin sister, Lacey,
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now has a son older than Levi ever was. But the
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son brings so much joy to the family. But that
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is truly all we know about Levi's murder. So
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if you know anything about the murder of Levi
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Frady in October of 1997, please call the Georgia
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Bureau of Investigation tip line at 1 -800 -587
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-8471. So that is the case of Levi Frady. When
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I first read about Levi's case, the first thing
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that I... I really took note of was that he was
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a twin. You know, in so many cases that we cover,
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most of them, you know, our victims or the people
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missing, they do have siblings. You know, that's
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very common, but very few of them have twins.
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And for Levi to have a twin sister, something
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about that bond and this tragedy happening. Like
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that really devastated me in a way that like
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truly I'll never understand. I am not a twin.
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I don't know what that bond is like. But seeing
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that bond, you know, in my friends who are twins
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is always something that is very different than
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any other sibling relationship that I've encountered.
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And, you know, my heart just really, really goes
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out to. Of course, Levi's family, but especially
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his twin sister and just the heartache that the
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family must feel, you know, and the juxtaposition
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that must happen around, you know, birthdays.
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Like, of course, it's such a sad day because
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it's a year that Levi's not getting, but then
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you want to celebrate for, you know, the year
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that his sister is getting. I can't even imagine
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what that family has gone through. And truly,
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my heart goes out to them and their family and
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their healing. You know, I think ultimately in
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this case is we need some answers. There's no
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moving on from murder cases. There's no closing
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a door. You know, that's something I've heard
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again and again from families. minds around it
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help the community this case is mind -boggling
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I think his mother said that mind -boggling like
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and it is it's why I mean the biggest question
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the overarching question here is just why was
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Levi killed what happened there you know that
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that quote from the GBI profiler about You know,
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there's no other case where a child has been
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murdered without motive. And, you know, I'm trying
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to think of one to point to differently, but
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it's like I really can't. And, you know, when
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children are murdered, typically we can kind
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of see a little bit of the motive there. But
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in Levi's case, there's really no motive. You
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know, we know he was not sexually assaulted.
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It doesn't seem like he was robbed. His backpack
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was there, and I don't think he had anything.
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truly of value on him, you know, maybe besides
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his bike, which was abandoned. You know, when
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I was researching this, I thought, you know,
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maybe was he hit by a car and someone panicked,
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but his bike didn't seem to have any damage to
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it. None that's reported. And there are even
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pictures of police, you know, collecting the
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bike as evidence. And, you know, there's no bent
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rims. It's fine. It's a perfectly working bike.
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I don't think that's happening. And then I also
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thought, could this have been an accident where,
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you know, we know this is a more rural area,
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maybe with somebody firing their gun off, or
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we do know that deer hunting season was about
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to start. So, you know, could it have been, could
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he have been riding past woods and somebody just
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shot and accidentally hit him, but then with
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him being shot three times? That's not an accident.
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That's somebody pulling the trigger three times
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on an 11 -year -old. So why? Why get him in a
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car? Why drive him, you know, 15, 20 miles away
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to the woods and then shoot him? What? Like,
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you know, when you just break it down, that's
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simply of just what happened. What? Why? You
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know, there's no world where this 11 -year -old
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boy was, like, a threat to anybody, you know,
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where somebody would fear their life. You know,
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it's just every, like, time I try to wrap my
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mind around why somebody would do this to a little
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boy, I just seem to get, like, further and further
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away from what happened because it's just so
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absurd. Like, what happens? Clearly, I'm... I'm
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flabbergasted by this. I just really, I cannot
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get over the lack of motive and police truly
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don't seem to have a motive here. It leaves me
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with so many questions, just so many questions
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in his case. I do wonder if in, you know, the
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stacks and stacks of files that have been made
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on this case, which is something that's talked
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about again and again is, you know, how many
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filing cabinets full. All of those interviews,
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did police actually talk to the killer? And,
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you know, they just answered the questions correctly
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to not really raise suspicion and were able to
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just walk out of the police department without
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raising an eyebrow? I just have to think that,
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like, in this small of a community, that if you're
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casting that wide of a net and talking to, you
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know, So many people, I believe it's well over
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200 people they talked to. You would think that
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they would have crossed paths with the killer.
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So I wonder if you just go back and really get
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into those details and track everything you can.
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Would there be some discrepancies that could
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maybe give us some clues as to who did this and
00:25:06.099 --> 00:25:10.220
why they would do this? If I could ask one question
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to police, so if I just got one, I think I would
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.940
just want to know what evidence they collected
00:25:15.940 --> 00:25:18.240
in this case. Like, what were they able to send
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for testing? And I guess it's a two -parter question,
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.140
and were they ever able to get DNA? I'd be really
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interested if we had any DNA in this case. You
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.279
know, 1997, it's just like kind of at that beginning
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.650
of DNA collection and using it to solve... murders
00:25:37.650 --> 00:25:42.309
and cases. But I just feel like there's opportunity
00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:48.609
for DNA. Specifically, my mind keeps going back
00:25:48.609 --> 00:25:50.910
to the backpack that was found at the crime scene.
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I have questions around that. And some of them
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are very mundane, like, you know, just was everything
00:25:56.349 --> 00:25:58.710
accounted for in the backpack? Like, was all
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of the homework there? You know, did they have
00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:03.960
Roman? take a look at the backpack and see if,
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you know, anything was missing. Um, you know,
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.880
was there a trophy taken, you know, even something
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.819
as like that, like was anything missing, even
00:26:11.819 --> 00:26:14.579
if it wasn't something of note, like, you know,
00:26:14.579 --> 00:26:19.519
maybe a book or a homework or a pencil case,
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you know, just was anything taken that the killer
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.160
might have taken as a trophy, as a personal memento.
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.839
Um, but yeah, my mind keeps coming back to that
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.220
backpack and just I'm wondering, like, could
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that be a source of DNA? Like, was it handled
00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:37.900
by the killer? Did they throw it out of, you
00:26:37.900 --> 00:26:43.720
know, their car? Did they grab it, you know,
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.680
to grab Levi? I don't know why the backpack comes
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so much into, you know, the front of my mind.
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I think it's because it's one of the few things
00:26:51.779 --> 00:26:54.759
we actually have in this case. I think that's
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.960
why I kind of cling to it. And then another thing
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I would just want to know is, What kind of gun
00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:05.009
was used? And I'm really surprised they didn't
00:27:05.009 --> 00:27:08.930
at least say the caliber at the time. You know,
00:27:08.950 --> 00:27:11.869
in rural communities, people tend to have guns
00:27:11.869 --> 00:27:14.190
and they tend to have more than one gun. But,
00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:17.950
you know, listing out what kind of, you know,
00:27:17.950 --> 00:27:22.250
millimeter maybe was used, that could be information
00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:24.569
that someone might recognize. You know, if it's
00:27:24.569 --> 00:27:28.410
a more unique thing, like a .44 caliber, not
00:27:28.410 --> 00:27:30.799
a... Not every person has those, so maybe that
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.660
limits it a little bit. Yeah, I just, I really
00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:37.480
wonder just what evidence we have, like what
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.500
are the solid facts we have in this case, just
00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:41.440
because there's so many questions out there.
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.160
For me, personally, I have so many questions
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:50.119
in this case. But I do hope that in all the evidence
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.259
that was collected, that there was something
00:27:54.259 --> 00:27:56.960
that maybe, if not tested then, we can test now.
00:27:57.630 --> 00:28:00.789
This case does feel solvable. You know, it wasn't
00:28:00.789 --> 00:28:05.549
that long ago. It was in 1997. And it was such
00:28:05.549 --> 00:28:09.029
a unique crime to this area that I think a lot
00:28:09.029 --> 00:28:11.029
of people really remember it. And I think they
00:28:11.029 --> 00:28:14.029
remember details about their life at that time
00:28:14.029 --> 00:28:17.890
and their community at that time. So I really
00:28:17.890 --> 00:28:22.490
hope that we are able to get some answers in
00:28:22.490 --> 00:28:26.259
this case for... first and foremost for Levi's
00:28:26.259 --> 00:28:29.400
family, but also for this community that got
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:34.400
rocked by a child's murder, a very senseless,
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.160
all child murders are senseless. There's no reason
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.339
a child's life should ever be taken. But like
00:28:40.339 --> 00:28:43.619
in Levi's case, it's like, this is completely
00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:47.700
senseless. We have no sense. You know, we have
00:28:47.700 --> 00:28:50.480
nothing to point to, to even be like, that is
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.819
why they did. Like, it's just, it's mind boggling.
00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:57.349
To quote his mom again, mind -boggling. But yeah,
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I would really love to see justice in this case,
00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:03.549
and I would just love to have someone answer
00:29:03.549 --> 00:29:06.049
for what they did and to be held accountable.
00:29:06.769 --> 00:29:09.710
So again, if you know anything about the murder
00:29:09.710 --> 00:29:15.869
of Levi Frady in October of 1997, please call
00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:19.009
the Georgia Bureau of Investigation tip line
00:29:19.009 --> 00:29:26.710
at 1 -800 -587 - 8471. We will have pictures
00:29:26.710 --> 00:29:30.130
of Levi up on our Instagram at coldandmissing.
00:29:30.130 --> 00:29:33.869
And we'll also have those suspect, not suspect,
00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:36.029
but the witness sketches. I can't believe I didn't
00:29:36.029 --> 00:29:38.410
talk about this in the wrap -up portion. But
00:29:38.410 --> 00:29:41.250
yeah, the witness sketches. We will have that
00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:44.750
on our Instagram too. These two men who were
00:29:44.750 --> 00:29:49.569
seen in... very important area so near where
00:29:49.569 --> 00:29:53.289
the bike was abandoned and then where near where
00:29:53.289 --> 00:29:56.089
Levi's body was found these two men were seen
00:29:56.089 --> 00:30:00.210
we have some really great sketches of what these
00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:04.230
men would have looked like in 1997 so somebody
00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:06.690
should be able to recognize them one man recognized
00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:08.950
himself from the sketches and like came forward
00:30:08.950 --> 00:30:11.509
with whatever information he had and it wasn't
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a lot but Somebody should be able to recognize
00:30:15.059 --> 00:30:18.640
these people, family, friends, colleagues, acquaintances.
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Somebody knows them. So we will have that up
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.559
on our Instagram too. And hopefully somebody
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.000
recognized them and is able to call police and
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.279
they're able to connect. And we're able to get
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some information in this case and get answers
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for Levi. But we will have pictures of Levi,
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those witness sketches. was also able to find
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a picture of his bike. So we'll put that up as
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well at our Instagram, at coldandmissing. If
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follow us there for updates in the case. And
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.com. But that is all I have for you this week.
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Thank you so much for listening to Cold and Missing.
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I'm your host, Ali. Have a good week and stay
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safe, y 'all.