Aug. 14, 2025
Cold and Missing: Ke’Shaun Vanderhorst
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In September of 1995, two-year-old Ke’Shaun Vanderhorst vanished from his home in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. A shy, gentle toddler who rarely left his mother’s side,. When his family began asking questions, his mother, Tina Vanderhorst, gave a series of conflicting stories—first saying the Department of Human Services took him, then claiming she had given him to a stranger, and finally admitting she sold him for drug money. Despite police searches, public appeals, and even a composite sketch of the woman Tina described, no trace of Ke’Shaun has ever been found. Almost 30 years later, his family still hopes he is alive.
*** If you know anything about the disappearance of Ke’Shaun Vanderhorst in Sept of 1995 - or his whereabouts today - please call the Philadelphia police at 215-686-3014 ***
Sources:
The Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia Daily News, Courier- post, Public opinion, Republican and Herald, Latrobe Bulletin,
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But with that, I think we should just go ahead
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person case, and this is episode 138. And just
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as a bit of a content warning at the top, this
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case does involve a young person. Today, we are
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talking about the missing person case of KeâShaun
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Vanderhorst. and this takes place in September
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of 1995 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. But first,
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a little bit about KeâShaun. In September of
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1995, KeâShaun is two years old and is living
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on the 1400 block of North 17th Street in Philadelphia,
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Pennsylvania. Those who knew him remember a quiet
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and shy toddler who rarely strayed from his mother's
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side. If his mom Tina Vanderhorst walked away,
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KeâShaun would cry until she came back. Again
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and again, people mention this fact about KeâShaun.
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He loved animals, especially cats. He was a familiar
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face in the neighborhood shops where workers
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and neighbors alike had taken turns watching
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him. Sometimes it was just for a few minutes
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while his mom ran to the back of the store to
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grab something. Other times it was overnight.
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KeâShaun had a sweet tooth for sugar -frosted
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tangerine candies, banana -flavored taffy, and
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orange and lime popsicles. You could often see
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him riding his red tricycle in stride with his
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mom. His clothes were always clean, and neighbors
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said he never appeared hungry or dirty. But his
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life hadn't been easy. Tina gave birth to him
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in July of 1993 while serving time in prison
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for a drug sentence. After being born, Kishan
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was in a foster home until Tina was released.
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He was the youngest of Tina's seven children,
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and heartbreak had already touched her family
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deeply. Four of her children had died as infants,
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two from sudden infant death syndrome, one from
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pneumonia. and another who died shortly after
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birth due to complications from being premature
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and drug -exposed. Tina was trying to turn her
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life around now that she was out of prison and
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had gotten custody of KeâShaun back. She was
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trying to stay clean and had recently started
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cooking school. Since she was attending classes,
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she got assistance to help pay for KeâShaun
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daycare, a space he loved and where his teacher
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noted how much Tina loved her son. Tina had told
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her counselor that she wanted a fresh start and
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wanted to get custody of her two other sons back
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who were living with their paternal grandmother.
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Tina seemed to be on the right track. However,
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in the month leading up to KeâShaunâs disappearance,
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Tina and her boyfriend James Simmons had broken
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up. This sent Tina into a spiral. She stopped
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going to class and due to this, she lost assistance
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to help pay for KeâShaunâs daycare. So he stopped
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showing up. She started asking neighbors to watch
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KeâShauns or showing up randomly and leaving him
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at places, saying she would be back in a few
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moments, but then leave him overnight. This was
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noted with neighbors as a different behavior
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for Tina. And now a timeline of events. Monday,
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September 25th, 1995. KeâShaun is last seen at
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his home in Philadelphia. There are a few details
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about this day, but this is the day that his
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aunt last saw him. It's also about this time
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that he stopped showing up to daycare and neighbors
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started seeing Tina without KeâShaun, something
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they all noticed since he was normally always
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at her side. One neighbor said that everywhere
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Tina went, KeâShaun went, so it was weird that
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he wasn't with her. On Wednesday, October 11th,
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It's been over two weeks since KeâShaun was last
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seen, but no one has raised the alarm yet. Tina's
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two sons, Keith and Kendall, visit their mom.
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When they ask where KeâShaun is, Tina breaks
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down crying and tells them, quote, When the boys
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return home, they tell their grandmother what
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was said. The grandmother was concerned, so she
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reached out to Tina's sister, Kim. When Kim confronts
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Tina, She says through tears that a woman from
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the Department of Human Services, or DHS, took
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Kishan and drove off with him. A few days pass,
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but the story doesn't seem to be sitting well
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with Kishan's aunt. So finally, on Friday, October
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13th, Kishan's aunt, Kim, reports him missing.
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Police go to Tina's apartment, but find no one
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home. It takes days for police to find Tina,
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but finally, after the weekend, on Monday, October
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16th, late in the evening, police find Tina in
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the neighborhood and bring her in for questioning.
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She repeats the story that she has told her family,
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that a woman from DHS came and took KeâShaun.
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Police released Tina that night. The next day,
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Tuesday, October 17th, investigators contact
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DHS. who say that they do not have KeâShaun in
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their custody. While there is a remote chance
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a child could have been dropped off anonymously,
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DHS double -checks and confirms that they do
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not have KeâShaun. However, they do say that
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they have an active case with Tina at this time.
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After getting this news, police head back to
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Tina's apartment to question her again. When
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police roll up, they find Tina being arrested
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for a parole violation. possession of drugs.
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Police take this opportunity to search her apartment.
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Police note that the apartment is extremely filthy
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and infested with pests, but they find no sign
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of KeâShaun and no evidence as to what might
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have happened to him. The next day, Wednesday,
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October 18th, police announced that they will
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be reviewing the deaths of Tina's other children
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in light of KeâShaun going missing. A forensic
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pathologist assisting in the review says, quote,
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is this a woman with a dark cloud over her head
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or a murderer? I'll just say it is extremely
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rare to see more than one Sid's death in the
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family. Tina's sisters express hope that KeâShaun
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is still alive and will be found. Kim says, quote,
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I hope he is alive. I love my nephew and I want
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him found. I don't know what happened. I'm just
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trying to find him. Tina's other sister Denise
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says, quote, I think he's at someone's house.
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I think she just dropped him off and didn't go
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back. But I think he's in good hands. I really
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do. During interrogations, Tina now tells investigators
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a new story about what happened to KeâShaun.
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That a woman offered to take KeâShaun because
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Tina couldn't care for him. Tina tells police
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that the woman came to her apartment and that
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said someone had sent her because Tina couldn't
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take care of her son. She hands Tina a piece
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of paper with a number on it that Tina doesn't
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really look at or even read later. The woman
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tells her that she'll contact Tina when it's
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okay for her to come and visit KeâShaun. Even
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though this is a news story from what Tina told
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before about DHS taking KeâShaun, Some elements
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remain the same. The description of the woman
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is the same, and the description of the car is
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the same. In both versions of the story, the
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DHS and the strange woman coming to take Kishan,
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the woman shows up on Thursday, September 26th,
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around 4 p .m. The woman is black, around 5 '4",
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and in her late 30s to early 40s. She's wearing
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a maroon skirt and a cream -colored jacket. Her
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nails are done. She tells Tina her name is Virginia
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Graham and she's a mother of two and married
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and lives in Philadelphia. She then takes KeâShaun
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and puts him in a white car seat and drives away
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in a light blue four -door car with a Pennsylvania
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license plate that started with AL. The next
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day, Thursday, October 19th, police search Tina's
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apartment a second time. This time, homicide
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detectives have taken over the case. They believe
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there is a possibility of foul play, citing Tina's
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earlier statements to her sons that they would
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never see KeâShaun again. Investigators also
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learn that about two weeks earlier, so this would
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have been two or three days after KeâShaun was
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last seen, Tina visited KeâShaunâs daycare teacher,
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Lisa. Tina was distraught and intoxicated due
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to the breakup. When Lisa asked where KeâShaun
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was, she told Lisa that KeâShuanâs father had
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him. Tina stayed at Lisa's home for about an
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hour until Lisa gave her money for food and then
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she left. Despite multiple searches of the apartment
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and the apartment grounds, including a vacant
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lot next door, police find no trace of KeâShaun
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or any clues as to what happened to him. Police
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do get a couple of tips. One is about a screaming
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child a few blocks away from Tina's apartment.
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Police look into this, but it doesn't appear
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to be related to KeâShaun. The other tip is that
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there was some strange activity in an abandoned
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house in the neighborhood. Again, police check
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this out, but don't find any evidence of KeâShaun.
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Tina is still in custody for her parole violation,
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and at this point, she's refusing to take a polygraph
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test. and will not answer further questions about
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KeâShuanâs whereabouts. On Tuesday, October 24th,
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so just a day shy of a month that Keâshaun has
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been missing, Tina tells police another story.
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This time, she says that the woman who came to
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her door gave her $500 for KeâShaun, all in 20s.
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When police ask what she did with the money,
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she says, quote, got high. The description of
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the woman and the car remains the same in this
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story as well. Police get to work making a composite
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sketch of the woman since her description has
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not wavered story to story. Police ask for help
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from the National Center of Missing and Exploited
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Children to get Kishan's photo out along with
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the sketch of the woman. When they release the
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sketch to the public, no one comes forward claiming
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they know her or have seen a woman fitting her
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description. At this point, Tina faces charges
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of child endangerment. While police don't believe
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that KeâShuan is still alive, they don't have
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any evidence to charge her with a murder. Police
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are charging her based on her story, but police
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say that there are holes in the story. Sergeant
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Bill Britt says that almost all sales of children
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happen while the woman is still pregnant. He
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also points out that none of the neighbors had
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seen the strange woman or her car. Police thought
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this was strange since there were several neighbors
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of Tina who spent the majority of their day outside
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on the porch. Surely one of them would have seen
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the transaction, the woman, or the car. But none
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of them did. Police are still trying to track
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down Tina's ex -boyfriend to question him. But
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at this point, they have not been able to locate
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him. On October 27th, so KeâShaun has been missing
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for over a month now, Tina comes up with another
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story. This time, she says that she got high
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and took KeâShaun in his stroller down to the
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fruit stand. From there, her details are vague,
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but she claims she doesn't remember if she brought
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him home. The man who worked the fruit stand
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had actually talked with the media in the days
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before, and he never mentioned KeâShaun being
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left there in his stroller, although the man
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had watched KeâShaun a few times before this.
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On Thursday, November 2nd, Five weeks after KeâShaun
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was last seen, Tina is charged with endangering
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the welfare of a child. A child advocate who
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had worked on KeâShaun case says that he reportedly
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warned DHS about concerns for the boy multiple
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times. But DHS denies any mishandling in the
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case. They say that Tina was an excellent mother
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who invested a lot of time in her child and there
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was no evidence of drug use at her home. They
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had actually closed the case on Kishan a month
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before he vanished. In late November of 1995,
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so two months have passed, and there are still
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no leads or suspects in the case. Police have
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searched the neighborhood and vacant homes. They
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have visited drug dealers and asked around, but
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no one has seen or heard about Kishan. Kishan's
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aunts worry that he is already being forgotten,
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and people have stopped looking for him. They
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offer a $1 ,000 reward for information, but no
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one comes forward. On November 29th, a judge
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rules Tina should stand trial on charges of endangering
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the welfare of a child and dealing in infants.
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She's held without bond until her trial date,
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which is almost a year later in November of 1996.
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So KeâShaun has been missing for a year and there's
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been no sign of him. Just before Tina's trial
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is set to begin, she pleads no contest to selling
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her son. She is convicted and sentenced to two
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and a half years in prison. After this headline,
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Kishan's case really goes cold. I couldn't find
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any additional media reports. His picture does
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appear in the newspaper a few times throughout
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the years whenever they show photos of missing
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children. There's usually a big page of them
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and he's one of the photos amongst them, but
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there's no additional details on his case or
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even updates on the case. Years later, in October
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of 2016, so KeâShaun has been missing for 21
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years at this point, Tina is arrested. She's
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charged with murder, but the murder of Robert
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Lynch. She stabbed Robert Lynch 77 times after
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an argument. She then left but returned to set
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the apartment on fire. However, even in those
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stories of her being arrested for this, very
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few of them mention KeâShaun. So this case is
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truly cold and we have no additional clues or
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evidence as to what really happened to him. So
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if you know anything about the disappearance
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of keâShuan Vanderhorst in September of 1995,
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or his whereabouts today, please call the Philadelphia
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Police at 215 -686 -3014. So that is the missing
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person case of KeâShaun Vanderhorst. This case
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for me, when I was first reading about it and
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started researching it, just... It overwhelmingly
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angered me. It just, it always angers me, disappoints
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me whenever there's a child that all these systems
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that are set up to protect children just fails
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and they fall through the cracks. And to me,
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it's heartbreaking that a child can be missing
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for weeks and no one raises the alarm on it.
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No one notices. Like that is deeply tragic to
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me. Like as a society, it's like we should be
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ashamed of that. We should be ashamed that there
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are missing children, period. And that we're
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not giving every single resource that we have
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to finding them and bringing them home and getting
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answers. But with KeâShaunâs case, so many people
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failed him. And for his little life to have been
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that tragic and this wrapped up in... you know,
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misery, kind of for lack of a better word. It's
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just heartbreaking and it's nothing that I would
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wish for any child anywhere in the world. To
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be honest, I kind of had some mixed reactions
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about bringing this case to Cold and Missing.
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On the one hand, you know, it is a missing person
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case. We do not know what happened to KeâShaun.
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We have no answers and we should have them. We
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should have answers to what happened to this
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child. However, the part of me that almost hesitated
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to bring this case is the part of me I think
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that is just very hopeful that KeâShaun was taken
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by a loving family and was raised as one of their
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own children and is out there maybe completely
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unaware and wouldn't want to know that this is
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wrapped up in his past you know like that is
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something that I definitely thought about but
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ultimately You know, I came to the decision that
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this is a case that Cold and Missing should cover.
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That while I do hope, you know, that's the best
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outcome in the scenario is that KeâShaun was
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raised in a loving home and is out there living
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a successful life with maybe a brand new name
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and new family and all that. While I deeply hope
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that is the case here, I also know that with
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all of these differing stories that were told
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by his mother and these sudden changes in behavior,
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that it is also very likely that something nefarious
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happened to KeâShaun. And for that, we should
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have answers. So ultimately, I brought this case
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to Cold and Missing, and I think it's one that...
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deserves more people talking about it, and KeâShaun
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deserves to be talked about and looked for and
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thought about. So I'm sure this case brought
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up a lot of questions for you all out there,
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but some of the big ones for me, you know, right
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away, I believe it's five different stories that
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Tina either tells other people, you know, her
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sisters, her family. And initially police, it's
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the DHS story. But then we also hear that there's
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she told his preschool or daycare teacher a different
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story that he was with his father. And then,
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you know, the the other three stories that Tina
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tells police that someone just came by and took
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KeâShaun because Tina couldn't take care of him
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and then that he was sold for five hundred dollars.
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him in the stroller at the fruit stand. I'm wondering
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if in investigations, police found any evidence
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of what story is the real one. You know, in this,
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in my research, you know, in police talking about
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this case, it seems like KeâShaun being sold
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for drugs seems... probable. Seems like what
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police think likely happened, even though at
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the time, you know, they say that there are holes
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in the story and they don't think KeâShaun is
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alive. They never come out and say that they
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think Tina murdered her son, but it's heavily
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implied, you know, through all of this that that's
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kind of what they're thinking, that she was involved
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or has direct knowledge of what happened to him.
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But I just wonder, you know, is there any evidence
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that either completely eliminates a story or,
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you know, maybe gives a little bit of proof?
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Like, we know they searched the apartment and
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the apartment was filthy, which kind of brings
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up other questions because others had reported
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that Kishan was always clean. His clothes were
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always clean. But if this apartment, you know,
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was as dirty as they said, like they said that.
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dirty diapers had been stuffed places, that there
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were mice and rats and bugs all over the place,
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piles of trash. So it's like, even if you are
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being diligent about cleaning clothes, it's like
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a toddler running around is going to get stuff
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on him. But nobody reported that Kishan was ever
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dirty or looked hungry. And then we also know
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DHS was involved. and visiting it seems like
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the house you know they say there was no evidence
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of drug use in the house I would think they would
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report or note if the house had these filthy
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conditions that would not be good for a child
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to be in you know it's not good for a baby to
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be around mice poop or you know it's not good
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for humans period but you know just you'd think
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there'd be some report on that so that's one
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thing I wonder like Did DHS also see a very dirty
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apartment or was that something that spiraled
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out of control in the last month or two after
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DHS closes the case? But back to my original
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line of thoughts, it's, you know, is there any
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evidence that can support a story one way or
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the other? You know, the stroller story of leaving
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him at the fruit stand. Was there a stroller
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in the apartment? You know, did neighbors see
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him in a stroller a lot? I didn't hear, you know,
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any of the neighbors commenting about a stroller.
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I heard about a tricycle, but not a stroller.
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And, you know, he's two. That's getting bigger
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for a stroller. Tina mentioned that she got like
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a piece of paper with a number on it, but she
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never really looked at it or read it or took
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in the information. You know, was that found
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at the apartment, a piece of paper with a number,
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anything like that? Could police locate and get
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the truth out of the drug dealer where she spent
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all this money that she got? We know she had
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$500 in 20s, according to her. Did she go spend
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that somewhere? Did she go to a store and get
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anything? Or did she go straight to buy drugs?
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And could you find the drug dealer to say, yes,
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I gave her $500 of drugs? I assume that's pretty
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difficult for the police to get an honest answer
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out of a drug dealer in that way, but it's something
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I wonder, like, could that be, could that have
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been substantiated? I don't know that it could
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anymore. I also wonder, you know, if they ever
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found Tina's ex -boyfriend, if they were able
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to question him and just... If they learned anything
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from him, whether, you know, he has a rock solid
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alibi, they could rule him out. But, you know,
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he could speak more to how Tina and KeâShaun
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interacted in the home. By all accounts from
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everybody, you know, neighbors, store owners,
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the daycare teacher, Tina's sisters, everyone
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says that she loved this boy. They never saw
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her mistreat him. They never saw him dirty, never
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saw him hungry. you know, how was Tina with him
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at home? Like, was that still the case or was
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that a public persona that she was putting on?
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I just wonder, like, what else was learned from
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the boyfriend if they were ever able to track
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him down? And I know they broke up, Tina and
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the boyfriend, but when did he last see KeâShaun
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and under what circumstances? I also assume that
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the reopening of the other children who died
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Tina's other children who died didn't bring about
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any new information I think if any of those deaths
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had seemed suspicious in the least that they
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would have brought additional charges to Tina
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if they could prove you know like a murder charge
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so I'm assuming nothing additional was found
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in those reports but I would be curious just
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What the final conclusion was, you know, was
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it inconclusive? Was it completely ruled out
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that there was foul play in these deaths? That
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is something that I would be curious about. Really,
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it's just really easy to think about KeâShaun.
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And on our Instagram, you know, we'll have pictures
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of him, but he's just like this. very smiling
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toddler like just his face really lights up when
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he smiles and he's so easy to like remember in
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that way like he's just very memorable and so
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it really breaks my heart that we don't know
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what happened to him and you know he has brothers
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that were very upset and you know I'm sure traumatized
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by everything surrounding this. So, you know,
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I'm sure they would like to know what happened
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to their brother as well. My hope in this case
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.579
is that we get answers, of course, to what happened
00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:20.759
to Kishan. But if we don't, if we never do, then
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.039
I hope in this case that Kishan, like I mentioned
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at the beginning, was taken in by a loving family.
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who treated him as one of their own children,
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and he is living a successful and happy life.
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That might be a pipe dream, but it's one that
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I really hope is true here. And, you know, I
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think there is a slim possibility that that could
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be the case, that he could be out there living
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:49.019
a very meaningful life. But again, if you know
00:27:49.019 --> 00:27:51.220
anything about the disappearance of KeâShaun
00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:54.859
in September of 1995 or his whereabouts today,
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.940
please call the Philadelphia Police at 215 -686
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-3014. Like I mentioned, we will have pictures
00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:06.259
of Keâshaun on our Instagram. We will also have
00:28:06.259 --> 00:28:08.920
an age progress photo. This would be his age
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at 23 years old. And then we also will have the
00:28:12.259 --> 00:28:16.359
suspect sketch of the woman who reportedly came
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.730
and took... Keishon, according to Tina. So all
00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:22.170
of that will be up on our Instagram, at coldandmissing.
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world to us. So thank you, thank you, thank you.
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But with that, I think we should just go ahead
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and get into this week's case. We are on a missing
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person case, and this is episode 138. And just
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as a bit of a content warning at the top, this
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case does involve a young person. Today, we are
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talking about the missing person case of KeâShaun
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Vanderhorst. and this takes place in September
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of 1995 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. But first,
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a little bit about KeâShaun. In September of
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1995, KeâShaun is two years old and is living
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on the 1400 block of North 17th Street in Philadelphia,
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Pennsylvania. Those who knew him remember a quiet
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and shy toddler who rarely strayed from his mother's
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side. If his mom Tina Vanderhorst walked away,
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KeâShaun would cry until she came back. Again
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and again, people mention this fact about KeâShaun.
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He loved animals, especially cats. He was a familiar
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face in the neighborhood shops where workers
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and neighbors alike had taken turns watching
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him. Sometimes it was just for a few minutes
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while his mom ran to the back of the store to
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grab something. Other times it was overnight.
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KeâShaun had a sweet tooth for sugar -frosted
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tangerine candies, banana -flavored taffy, and
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orange and lime popsicles. You could often see
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him riding his red tricycle in stride with his
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mom. His clothes were always clean, and neighbors
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said he never appeared hungry or dirty. But his
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life hadn't been easy. Tina gave birth to him
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in July of 1993 while serving time in prison
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for a drug sentence. After being born, Kishan
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was in a foster home until Tina was released.
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He was the youngest of Tina's seven children,
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and heartbreak had already touched her family
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deeply. Four of her children had died as infants,
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two from sudden infant death syndrome, one from
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pneumonia. and another who died shortly after
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birth due to complications from being premature
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and drug -exposed. Tina was trying to turn her
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life around now that she was out of prison and
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had gotten custody of KeâShaun back. She was
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trying to stay clean and had recently started
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cooking school. Since she was attending classes,
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she got assistance to help pay for KeâShaun
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daycare, a space he loved and where his teacher
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noted how much Tina loved her son. Tina had told
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her counselor that she wanted a fresh start and
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wanted to get custody of her two other sons back
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who were living with their paternal grandmother.
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Tina seemed to be on the right track. However,
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in the month leading up to KeâShaunâs disappearance,
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Tina and her boyfriend James Simmons had broken
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up. This sent Tina into a spiral. She stopped
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going to class and due to this, she lost assistance
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to help pay for KeâShaunâs daycare. So he stopped
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showing up. She started asking neighbors to watch
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KeâShauns or showing up randomly and leaving him
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at places, saying she would be back in a few
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moments, but then leave him overnight. This was
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noted with neighbors as a different behavior
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for Tina. And now a timeline of events. Monday,
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September 25th, 1995. KeâShaun is last seen at
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his home in Philadelphia. There are a few details
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about this day, but this is the day that his
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aunt last saw him. It's also about this time
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that he stopped showing up to daycare and neighbors
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started seeing Tina without KeâShaun, something
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they all noticed since he was normally always
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at her side. One neighbor said that everywhere
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Tina went, KeâShaun went, so it was weird that
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he wasn't with her. On Wednesday, October 11th,
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It's been over two weeks since KeâShaun was last
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seen, but no one has raised the alarm yet. Tina's
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two sons, Keith and Kendall, visit their mom.
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When they ask where KeâShaun is, Tina breaks
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down crying and tells them, quote, When the boys
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return home, they tell their grandmother what
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was said. The grandmother was concerned, so she
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reached out to Tina's sister, Kim. When Kim confronts
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Tina, She says through tears that a woman from
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the Department of Human Services, or DHS, took
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Kishan and drove off with him. A few days pass,
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but the story doesn't seem to be sitting well
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with Kishan's aunt. So finally, on Friday, October
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13th, Kishan's aunt, Kim, reports him missing.
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Police go to Tina's apartment, but find no one
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home. It takes days for police to find Tina,
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but finally, after the weekend, on Monday, October
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16th, late in the evening, police find Tina in
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the neighborhood and bring her in for questioning.
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She repeats the story that she has told her family,
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that a woman from DHS came and took KeâShaun.
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Police released Tina that night. The next day,
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Tuesday, October 17th, investigators contact
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DHS. who say that they do not have KeâShaun in
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their custody. While there is a remote chance
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a child could have been dropped off anonymously,
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DHS double -checks and confirms that they do
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not have KeâShaun. However, they do say that
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they have an active case with Tina at this time.
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After getting this news, police head back to
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Tina's apartment to question her again. When
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police roll up, they find Tina being arrested
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for a parole violation. possession of drugs.
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Police take this opportunity to search her apartment.
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Police note that the apartment is extremely filthy
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and infested with pests, but they find no sign
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of KeâShaun and no evidence as to what might
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have happened to him. The next day, Wednesday,
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October 18th, police announced that they will
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be reviewing the deaths of Tina's other children
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in light of KeâShaun going missing. A forensic
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pathologist assisting in the review says, quote,
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is this a woman with a dark cloud over her head
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or a murderer? I'll just say it is extremely
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rare to see more than one Sid's death in the
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family. Tina's sisters express hope that KeâShaun
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is still alive and will be found. Kim says, quote,
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I hope he is alive. I love my nephew and I want
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him found. I don't know what happened. I'm just
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trying to find him. Tina's other sister Denise
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says, quote, I think he's at someone's house.
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I think she just dropped him off and didn't go
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back. But I think he's in good hands. I really
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do. During interrogations, Tina now tells investigators
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a new story about what happened to KeâShaun.
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That a woman offered to take KeâShaun because
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Tina couldn't care for him. Tina tells police
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that the woman came to her apartment and that
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said someone had sent her because Tina couldn't
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take care of her son. She hands Tina a piece
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of paper with a number on it that Tina doesn't
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really look at or even read later. The woman
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tells her that she'll contact Tina when it's
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okay for her to come and visit KeâShaun. Even
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though this is a news story from what Tina told
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before about DHS taking KeâShaun, Some elements
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remain the same. The description of the woman
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is the same, and the description of the car is
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the same. In both versions of the story, the
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DHS and the strange woman coming to take Kishan,
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the woman shows up on Thursday, September 26th,
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around 4 p .m. The woman is black, around 5 '4",
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and in her late 30s to early 40s. She's wearing
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a maroon skirt and a cream -colored jacket. Her
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nails are done. She tells Tina her name is Virginia
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Graham and she's a mother of two and married
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and lives in Philadelphia. She then takes KeâShaun
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and puts him in a white car seat and drives away
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in a light blue four -door car with a Pennsylvania
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license plate that started with AL. The next
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day, Thursday, October 19th, police search Tina's
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apartment a second time. This time, homicide
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detectives have taken over the case. They believe
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there is a possibility of foul play, citing Tina's
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earlier statements to her sons that they would
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never see KeâShaun again. Investigators also
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learn that about two weeks earlier, so this would
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have been two or three days after KeâShaun was
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last seen, Tina visited KeâShaunâs daycare teacher,
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Lisa. Tina was distraught and intoxicated due
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to the breakup. When Lisa asked where KeâShaun
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was, she told Lisa that KeâShuanâs father had
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him. Tina stayed at Lisa's home for about an
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hour until Lisa gave her money for food and then
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she left. Despite multiple searches of the apartment
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and the apartment grounds, including a vacant
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lot next door, police find no trace of KeâShaun
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or any clues as to what happened to him. Police
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do get a couple of tips. One is about a screaming
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child a few blocks away from Tina's apartment.
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Police look into this, but it doesn't appear
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to be related to KeâShaun. The other tip is that
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there was some strange activity in an abandoned
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house in the neighborhood. Again, police check
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this out, but don't find any evidence of KeâShaun.
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Tina is still in custody for her parole violation,
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and at this point, she's refusing to take a polygraph
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test. and will not answer further questions about
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KeâShuanâs whereabouts. On Tuesday, October 24th,
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so just a day shy of a month that Keâshaun has
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been missing, Tina tells police another story.
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This time, she says that the woman who came to
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her door gave her $500 for KeâShaun, all in 20s.
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When police ask what she did with the money,
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she says, quote, got high. The description of
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the woman and the car remains the same in this
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story as well. Police get to work making a composite
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sketch of the woman since her description has
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not wavered story to story. Police ask for help
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from the National Center of Missing and Exploited
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Children to get Kishan's photo out along with
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the sketch of the woman. When they release the
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sketch to the public, no one comes forward claiming
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they know her or have seen a woman fitting her
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description. At this point, Tina faces charges
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of child endangerment. While police don't believe
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that KeâShuan is still alive, they don't have
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any evidence to charge her with a murder. Police
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are charging her based on her story, but police
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say that there are holes in the story. Sergeant
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Bill Britt says that almost all sales of children
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happen while the woman is still pregnant. He
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also points out that none of the neighbors had
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seen the strange woman or her car. Police thought
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this was strange since there were several neighbors
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of Tina who spent the majority of their day outside
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on the porch. Surely one of them would have seen
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the transaction, the woman, or the car. But none
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of them did. Police are still trying to track
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down Tina's ex -boyfriend to question him. But
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at this point, they have not been able to locate
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him. On October 27th, so KeâShaun has been missing
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for over a month now, Tina comes up with another
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story. This time, she says that she got high
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and took KeâShaun in his stroller down to the
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fruit stand. From there, her details are vague,
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but she claims she doesn't remember if she brought
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him home. The man who worked the fruit stand
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had actually talked with the media in the days
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before, and he never mentioned KeâShaun being
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left there in his stroller, although the man
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had watched KeâShaun a few times before this.
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On Thursday, November 2nd, Five weeks after KeâShaun
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was last seen, Tina is charged with endangering
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the welfare of a child. A child advocate who
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had worked on KeâShaun case says that he reportedly
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warned DHS about concerns for the boy multiple
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times. But DHS denies any mishandling in the
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case. They say that Tina was an excellent mother
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who invested a lot of time in her child and there
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was no evidence of drug use at her home. They
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had actually closed the case on Kishan a month
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before he vanished. In late November of 1995,
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so two months have passed, and there are still
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no leads or suspects in the case. Police have
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searched the neighborhood and vacant homes. They
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have visited drug dealers and asked around, but
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no one has seen or heard about Kishan. Kishan's
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aunts worry that he is already being forgotten,
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and people have stopped looking for him. They
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offer a $1 ,000 reward for information, but no
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one comes forward. On November 29th, a judge
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rules Tina should stand trial on charges of endangering
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the welfare of a child and dealing in infants.
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She's held without bond until her trial date,
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which is almost a year later in November of 1996.
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So KeâShaun has been missing for a year and there's
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been no sign of him. Just before Tina's trial
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is set to begin, she pleads no contest to selling
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her son. She is convicted and sentenced to two
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and a half years in prison. After this headline,
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Kishan's case really goes cold. I couldn't find
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any additional media reports. His picture does
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appear in the newspaper a few times throughout
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the years whenever they show photos of missing
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children. There's usually a big page of them
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and he's one of the photos amongst them, but
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there's no additional details on his case or
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even updates on the case. Years later, in October
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of 2016, so KeâShaun has been missing for 21
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years at this point, Tina is arrested. She's
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charged with murder, but the murder of Robert
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Lynch. She stabbed Robert Lynch 77 times after
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an argument. She then left but returned to set
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the apartment on fire. However, even in those
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stories of her being arrested for this, very
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few of them mention KeâShaun. So this case is
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truly cold and we have no additional clues or
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evidence as to what really happened to him. So
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if you know anything about the disappearance
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of keâShuan Vanderhorst in September of 1995,
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or his whereabouts today, please call the Philadelphia
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Police at 215 -686 -3014. So that is the missing
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person case of KeâShaun Vanderhorst. This case
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for me, when I was first reading about it and
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started researching it, just... It overwhelmingly
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angered me. It just, it always angers me, disappoints
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me whenever there's a child that all these systems
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that are set up to protect children just fails
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and they fall through the cracks. And to me,
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it's heartbreaking that a child can be missing
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for weeks and no one raises the alarm on it.
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No one notices. Like that is deeply tragic to
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me. Like as a society, it's like we should be
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ashamed of that. We should be ashamed that there
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are missing children, period. And that we're
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not giving every single resource that we have
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to finding them and bringing them home and getting
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answers. But with KeâShaunâs case, so many people
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failed him. And for his little life to have been
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that tragic and this wrapped up in... you know,
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misery, kind of for lack of a better word. It's
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just heartbreaking and it's nothing that I would
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wish for any child anywhere in the world. To
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be honest, I kind of had some mixed reactions
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about bringing this case to Cold and Missing.
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On the one hand, you know, it is a missing person
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case. We do not know what happened to KeâShaun.
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We have no answers and we should have them. We
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should have answers to what happened to this
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child. However, the part of me that almost hesitated
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to bring this case is the part of me I think
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that is just very hopeful that KeâShaun was taken
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by a loving family and was raised as one of their
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own children and is out there maybe completely
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unaware and wouldn't want to know that this is
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wrapped up in his past you know like that is
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something that I definitely thought about but
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ultimately You know, I came to the decision that
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this is a case that Cold and Missing should cover.
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That while I do hope, you know, that's the best
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outcome in the scenario is that KeâShaun was
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raised in a loving home and is out there living
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a successful life with maybe a brand new name
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and new family and all that. While I deeply hope
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that is the case here, I also know that with
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all of these differing stories that were told
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by his mother and these sudden changes in behavior,
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that it is also very likely that something nefarious
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happened to KeâShaun. And for that, we should
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have answers. So ultimately, I brought this case
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to Cold and Missing, and I think it's one that...
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deserves more people talking about it, and KeâShaun
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deserves to be talked about and looked for and
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thought about. So I'm sure this case brought
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up a lot of questions for you all out there,
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but some of the big ones for me, you know, right
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away, I believe it's five different stories that
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Tina either tells other people, you know, her
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sisters, her family. And initially police, it's
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the DHS story. But then we also hear that there's
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she told his preschool or daycare teacher a different
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story that he was with his father. And then,
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you know, the the other three stories that Tina
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tells police that someone just came by and took
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KeâShaun because Tina couldn't take care of him
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and then that he was sold for five hundred dollars.
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him in the stroller at the fruit stand. I'm wondering
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if in investigations, police found any evidence
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of what story is the real one. You know, in this,
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in my research, you know, in police talking about
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this case, it seems like KeâShaun being sold
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for drugs seems... probable. Seems like what
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police think likely happened, even though at
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the time, you know, they say that there are holes
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in the story and they don't think KeâShaun is
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alive. They never come out and say that they
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think Tina murdered her son, but it's heavily
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implied, you know, through all of this that that's
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kind of what they're thinking, that she was involved
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or has direct knowledge of what happened to him.
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But I just wonder, you know, is there any evidence
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that either completely eliminates a story or,
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you know, maybe gives a little bit of proof?
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Like, we know they searched the apartment and
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the apartment was filthy, which kind of brings
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up other questions because others had reported
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that Kishan was always clean. His clothes were
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always clean. But if this apartment, you know,
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was as dirty as they said, like they said that.
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dirty diapers had been stuffed places, that there
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were mice and rats and bugs all over the place,
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piles of trash. So it's like, even if you are
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being diligent about cleaning clothes, it's like
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a toddler running around is going to get stuff
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on him. But nobody reported that Kishan was ever
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dirty or looked hungry. And then we also know
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DHS was involved. and visiting it seems like
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the house you know they say there was no evidence
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of drug use in the house I would think they would
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report or note if the house had these filthy
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conditions that would not be good for a child
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to be in you know it's not good for a baby to
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be around mice poop or you know it's not good
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for humans period but you know just you'd think
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there'd be some report on that so that's one
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thing I wonder like Did DHS also see a very dirty
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apartment or was that something that spiraled
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out of control in the last month or two after
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DHS closes the case? But back to my original
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line of thoughts, it's, you know, is there any
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evidence that can support a story one way or
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the other? You know, the stroller story of leaving
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him at the fruit stand. Was there a stroller
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in the apartment? You know, did neighbors see
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him in a stroller a lot? I didn't hear, you know,
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any of the neighbors commenting about a stroller.
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I heard about a tricycle, but not a stroller.
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And, you know, he's two. That's getting bigger
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for a stroller. Tina mentioned that she got like
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a piece of paper with a number on it, but she
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never really looked at it or read it or took
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in the information. You know, was that found
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at the apartment, a piece of paper with a number,
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anything like that? Could police locate and get
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the truth out of the drug dealer where she spent
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all this money that she got? We know she had
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$500 in 20s, according to her. Did she go spend
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that somewhere? Did she go to a store and get
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anything? Or did she go straight to buy drugs?
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And could you find the drug dealer to say, yes,
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I gave her $500 of drugs? I assume that's pretty
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difficult for the police to get an honest answer
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out of a drug dealer in that way, but it's something
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I wonder, like, could that be, could that have
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been substantiated? I don't know that it could
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anymore. I also wonder, you know, if they ever
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found Tina's ex -boyfriend, if they were able
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to question him and just... If they learned anything
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from him, whether, you know, he has a rock solid
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alibi, they could rule him out. But, you know,
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he could speak more to how Tina and KeâShaun
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interacted in the home. By all accounts from
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everybody, you know, neighbors, store owners,
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the daycare teacher, Tina's sisters, everyone
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says that she loved this boy. They never saw
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her mistreat him. They never saw him dirty, never
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saw him hungry. you know, how was Tina with him
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at home? Like, was that still the case or was
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that a public persona that she was putting on?
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I just wonder, like, what else was learned from
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the boyfriend if they were ever able to track
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him down? And I know they broke up, Tina and
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the boyfriend, but when did he last see KeâShaun
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and under what circumstances? I also assume that
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the reopening of the other children who died
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Tina's other children who died didn't bring about
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any new information I think if any of those deaths
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had seemed suspicious in the least that they
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would have brought additional charges to Tina
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if they could prove you know like a murder charge
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so I'm assuming nothing additional was found
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in those reports but I would be curious just
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What the final conclusion was, you know, was
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it inconclusive? Was it completely ruled out
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that there was foul play in these deaths? That
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is something that I would be curious about. Really,
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it's just really easy to think about KeâShaun.
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And on our Instagram, you know, we'll have pictures
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of him, but he's just like this. very smiling
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toddler like just his face really lights up when
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he smiles and he's so easy to like remember in
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that way like he's just very memorable and so
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it really breaks my heart that we don't know
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what happened to him and you know he has brothers
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that were very upset and you know I'm sure traumatized
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by everything surrounding this. So, you know,
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I'm sure they would like to know what happened
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to their brother as well. My hope in this case
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.579
is that we get answers, of course, to what happened
00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:20.759
to Kishan. But if we don't, if we never do, then
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I hope in this case that Kishan, like I mentioned
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at the beginning, was taken in by a loving family.
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who treated him as one of their own children,
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and he is living a successful and happy life.
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That might be a pipe dream, but it's one that
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I really hope is true here. And, you know, I
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think there is a slim possibility that that could
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be the case, that he could be out there living
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:49.019
a very meaningful life. But again, if you know
00:27:49.019 --> 00:27:51.220
anything about the disappearance of KeâShaun
00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:54.859
in September of 1995 or his whereabouts today,
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.940
please call the Philadelphia Police at 215 -686
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-3014. Like I mentioned, we will have pictures
00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:06.259
of Keâshaun on our Instagram. We will also have
00:28:06.259 --> 00:28:08.920
an age progress photo. This would be his age
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at 23 years old. And then we also will have the
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suspect sketch of the woman who reportedly came
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.730
and took... Keishon, according to Tina. So all
00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:22.170
of that will be up on our Instagram, at coldandmissing.
00:28:22.329 --> 00:28:24.769
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the time it it really means a lot to me And then
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also our website, www .coldandmissing .com. If
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you wanted to buy us a coffee, you can do that
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there. Or if you want to find all our old episodes,
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it's all up on there along with the transcripts.
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So if you or someone you love is hard of hearing,
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the official transcripts with correct spellings
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of names and things like that can be found on
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our website. I have no control over the transcripts
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that are uploaded or done automatically by podcast
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players, but the officials are on our website,
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www .coldandmissing .com. That's all I have for
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you today. Thank you so much for listening to
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Cold and Missing, for coming back, for joining
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me again. I always appreciate you. Have a good
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week and stay safe, y 'all.
