Cold and Missing: Jeffrey Lynn Smith

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts.200:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.300:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages.400:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560Listener discretion is advised.500:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.600:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.700:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,580And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases.800:00:32,580 --> 00:00:34,200And missing person cases.900:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,200Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.1000:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,640I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.1100:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,240And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.1200:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,160Thank you so much for hanging in with us this week.1300:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,680You can probably tell from my voice I'm still a little sick, but I'm feeling much better.1400:00:50,680 --> 00:00:57,120And for me, part of respecting these stories is being able to tell them with the best of1500:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,360everything, the best audio, best research, and also the best voice.1600:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,680So I didn't want to be a sick mess.1700:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,800Recording on Sunday is when we usually record.1800:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,080And have people not listen to the episode because they don't want a sick person in their1900:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,080ear.2000:01:13,080 --> 00:01:18,600Yeah, I feel like now is a maybe okay time to mention that, especially if you've been2100:01:18,600 --> 00:01:25,140listening to us for a year now, you have been with us when we've been sick a couple of times.2200:01:25,140 --> 00:01:29,040We are a times two autoimmune household.2300:01:29,040 --> 00:01:35,140So sometimes, unfortunately, when we get sick, when one of us gets sick, we both get sick.2400:01:35,140 --> 00:01:41,420And usually it knocks us out for like a few days as opposed to someone who has maybe a2500:01:41,420 --> 00:01:44,240stronger immune system than myself or Ali.2600:01:44,240 --> 00:01:52,300So we appreciate you always coming back and being a part of what we're trying to do here.2700:01:52,300 --> 00:01:57,400And even after, you know, especially even when we're on the mend, we love to get back in2800:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,160the booth like Ali is right now.2900:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,000And yeah, I think that's it.3000:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,840We have Episode 62.3100:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,280Awesome.3200:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,520So this week we are on a missing person case.3300:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,920And we are going to be talking about the case of Jeffrey Lynn Smith.3400:02:14,920 --> 00:02:20,960And this takes place December 4, 1985, in Hot Springs, Arkansas.3500:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,840At first, a little bit about Jeffrey Lynn.3600:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,400Jeffrey went by her middle name Lynn.3700:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,580But there's a story behind her first name, Jeffrey, which is pretty interesting.3800:02:31,580 --> 00:02:36,560So her mother, Clarice, was a housekeeper and nanny for Virginia Kelley and her then3900:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,280husband Jeff Dwyer.4000:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,280Virginia is the mother of former President Bill Clinton.4100:02:42,280 --> 00:02:47,080According to Clarice, since Virginia and Jeff were unable to have children, they wanted4200:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,680Clarice to name her child after Jeff.4300:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,960When Clarice gave birth to a baby girl, she was going to name her Shirley, but Virginia4400:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,960and Jeff's feelings were hurt, so she changed the name to Jeffrey Lynn.4500:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,280Now, Clarice didn't have much interaction with Bill Clinton since he was already out4600:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,760of the household and attending Oxford on his Rhodes Scholarship at this time.4700:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,960But when he came home to visit, he did meet Clarice while she was pregnant with Lynn.4800:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,840Lynn was 16 years old in 1985.4900:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,440She had turned 16 in October of that year.5000:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,120And as a gift, her parents gave her an opal ring.5100:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,900Lynn adored her ring and wore it every day.5200:03:22,900 --> 00:03:27,640Her sister Lisa said that Lynn protected the ring, quote, as if it were one of the crown5300:03:27,640 --> 00:03:30,200jewels of England, end quote.5400:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,680Lynn has a bright smile and was shy around strangers, but very talkative around those5500:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,860she loved.5600:03:35,860 --> 00:03:41,220Lynn loved her hair and according to her mother was a sweet and lovely young lady.5700:03:41,220 --> 00:03:43,760She followed the rules and listened to her mother.5800:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800She never gave her mother any trouble at all.5900:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,480And now a timeline of events.6000:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,040On December 4th, 1985, this starts as a typical day for Lynn.6100:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,360She heads to school wearing pink pants, a brown jacket and tan shoes.6200:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,600After the school day ends, Lynn is walking home with her then boyfriend named Frank and6300:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,400a friend named Lisa, not her sister Lisa, but a friend named Lisa.6400:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,240Lynn's aunt actually sees the trio walking and stops to ask if they want to ride.6500:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,000They say no, they were okay walking and they continue on their way.6600:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,080Lisa leaves Lynn and Frank to head to her home.6700:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,680Lisa tells Lynn's sister years later, quote, I left parted ways with them and she was headed6800:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,680home.6900:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,140They just kept walking, end quote.7000:04:31,140 --> 00:04:36,120This was near the intersection of Crescent Street and Silver Street in Hot Springs, Arkansas,7100:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,600which was just blocks from her home.7200:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,240Frank says that he and Lynn parted ways and she was headed home.7300:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,400Despite being close to her home, Lynn never makes it there.7400:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,680Clarice instantly starts to panic when Lynn doesn't come home.7500:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,600Lynn has never missed her curfew before and she's never given her parents a reason to7600:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,600worry.7700:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,080Clarice calls the police who do not take Lynn's disappearance seriously.7800:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,480Police believe that she'll be back soon and is probably just out with friends.7900:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,160Police treat the disappearance as a runaway.8000:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,960On December 5th, 1985, the next day, Clarice knows something is absolutely wrong.8100:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,520Not only had Lynn never missed curfew, but she certainly had never stayed out all night.8200:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,600Her family knows that there is no way that she ran away.8300:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,800Clarice calls her daughter Lisa, crying and telling her that Lynn didn't come home last8400:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,920night.8500:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,480Police stand firm that she ran away and do not launch any official searches for the girl8600:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,800that I could find any reports on.8700:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,080According to the family, they were the ones hitting the streets every single night, hanging8800:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,320up posters, asking folks to be on the lookout and if they have seen her.8900:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,200Lynn's boyfriend, Frank, does join the family in their nightly searches for Lynn, but no9000:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,240trace of her is found.9100:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,080After some time, it's unclear if this was days or weeks after Lynn's disappearance,9200:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,760but the police contact her family to let them know they had some news.9300:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,640They found Lynn's beloved opal ring at a pawn shop.9400:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,880It had been pawned the day Lynn disappeared.9500:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960Police do not confirm who the person was that pawned it.9600:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,400However, it does appear that in 1985, it would have been required to show an ID to pawn an9700:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,360item, but the pawn industry wasn't as regulated as it is today, so there may have been some9800:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,960shops who were slipping through the cracks.9900:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,640I mention all of that because police have never confirmed who pawned the ring.10000:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,320The family does have their suspicions on who the person was, but in theory, if all protocols10100:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,520were followed, the police should know who pawned Lynn's ring the day she disappeared.10200:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,400The case truly goes cold after this.10300:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,900Police never launch any official searches, and it's only the family who are out searching10400:06:42,900 --> 00:06:44,760for Lynn during this period.10500:06:44,760 --> 00:06:51,240Lynn's family did move out of Arkansas for a bit, but they moved back in 2005, nearly10600:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,92020 years after Lynn disappeared.10700:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,920They move back with the hopes of reopening the case and getting answers to what happened10800:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,920to Lynn.10900:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,560Lisa, Lynn's sister, did manage to talk to two women who had dated Lynn's boyfriend,11000:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,560Frank.11100:07:05,560 --> 00:07:11,160Both women were abused by him, and Frank would end up serving jail time for a myriad of reasons.11200:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,680Lisa transcribed the interviews and turned them over to police.11300:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,960Lynn's family and their relationship with the police was very tense.11400:07:18,960 --> 00:07:25,880Not only had they not taken Lynn's disappearance seriously in 1985, but at one point, the police11500:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,760called the family down to the station saying that they had news about Lynn's disappearance.11600:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,440When the family arrived, instead of giving them news, they arrested her stepfather on11700:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,640an outstanding traffic warrant.11800:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,320Lisa says, quote, that was inhumane.11900:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,280The people who were supposed to protect us were playing games, end quote.12000:07:44,280 --> 00:07:50,080In 2007, Lynn's family was able to sit down and review the police file on Lynn's disappearance12100:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,760and found many inconsistencies.12200:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,840The biggest flaw, the family felt, was that Lynn's ex-boyfriend, Frank, wasn't examined12300:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,220more closely.12400:07:59,220 --> 00:08:04,000The police did interview Frank, but the family does not believe it was enough.12500:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,480According to Lisa, quote, the interview consisted of them standing at his door and asking him12600:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,480a question.12700:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,920They interviewed him for five minutes.12800:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,120My mom and dad sat outside the door and watched, end quote.12900:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,580In 2008, the case was reopened by the Hot Springs police and reclassified as a homicide.13000:08:22,580 --> 00:08:26,760Police say they do have a suspect whose statements have been inconsistent.13100:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,360Police search wooded areas and fields, but nothing related to Lynn is found, per the13200:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,360police.13300:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,920When the police do reopen the case, they put the family in touch with the National Center13400:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,080for Missing and Exploited Children.13500:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,080The center does produce an age-progress photo of Lynn on what she might look like at 38.13600:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,600Lisa becomes heavily involved with the volunteering for the organization, and it's something13700:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,000that she continues to do to this day.13800:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,960In 2010, police bring cadaver dogs to a heavily wooded area searching for clues related to13900:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,960Lynn.14000:08:56,960 --> 00:09:03,080The Hot Springs police sergeant, Jeffrey Micah, told the media again that they do have a suspect14100:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,000in the case, but they declined to release the person's name.14200:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,680And that is truly the last update I could find around Lynn's case.14300:09:11,680 --> 00:09:16,720Lisa has done an incredible job keeping Lynn's case in the public eye and with her volunteer14400:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,560work at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, but there have been no14500:09:20,560 --> 00:09:26,400new leads or police activity that have been reported in regards to Lynn's disappearance.14600:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,320The family honors Lynn every holiday season by handing out what they call Lynn bags to14700:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,920people experiencing homelessness.14800:09:33,920 --> 00:09:40,480In the bags, they put socks, gloves, toiletries, food, and a crisp $5 bill to hand out to those14900:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,480in need.15000:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,480According to the family, when they hand the bags out to those who need it, their eyes15100:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,760light up and they get to experience Lynn's bright eyes once again.15200:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,080And this is how they honor her memory, which is really beautiful.15300:09:53,080 --> 00:09:59,000But that is really all we know about the disappearance of Jeffrey Lynn Smith.15400:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,640So if you know anything about the disappearance of Lynn Smith or her whereabouts today, you15500:10:03,640 --> 00:10:10,960are encouraged to call the Hot Springs police at 501-321-6789.15600:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,920And the sources for the timeline come from the Baxter Bulletin, KARK News, Lisa Murray's15700:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,360personal YouTube channel, News One, and rblackgirls.com.15800:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,040So that is the case of Jeffrey Lynn Smith.15900:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,600This was a case that I actually knew about.16000:10:30,600 --> 00:10:40,840And it was only a case that I knew some information about because it was one that I happened to16100:10:40,840 --> 00:10:51,400come across in my own, you know, just in, I guess, offshoot investigative true crime16200:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,800work when I'm on the internet by myself and looking.16300:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,920Her case was one that I came across and just saw that maybe someone had written about it,16400:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,040I think.16500:11:06,040 --> 00:11:15,160And I, unfortunately, like this, it makes me like kind of embarrassed to say, like,16600:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,760I couldn't remember the name.16700:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,240All I could remember was how mishandled it seemed.16800:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,680I guess those are my first reactions is that it was one that I kind of knew about.16900:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,600And once you started talking, I was like, oh, yeah, I remember her name and that she17000:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,840goes by or went by her middle name predominantly.17100:11:31,840 --> 00:11:39,640And this just gives me like a little choked up just that she was very small.17200:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,680I remember that she was small.17300:11:42,680 --> 00:11:47,200Yeah, she was 16 years old in 1985 when she went missing.17400:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,720So she was a very petite young woman.17500:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,020Yeah, I guess I would like to course correct a little bit.17600:11:56,020 --> 00:11:59,320My comment on that is I am around the same height.17700:11:59,320 --> 00:12:06,640I know that I am small and just how easy it is to be taken advantage of physically when17800:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,160you are small and like the extra heartbreak around that because like people know that17900:12:12,160 --> 00:12:18,040they can take advantage of people who are smaller more easily, you know.18000:12:18,040 --> 00:12:26,520My question for you, though, coming into this is what what do you have to say about the18100:12:26,520 --> 00:12:34,840boyfriend, because I know you gave the telling of the story, but I'm very interested in your18200:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,720thoughts and opinions on that.18300:12:37,720 --> 00:12:44,400I think you always need to eliminate the last person who saw the person before they disappeared18400:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,940or you know, before they were murdered.18500:12:46,940 --> 00:12:51,940You have to cross them out almost in the same way that, you know, when people are married,18600:12:51,940 --> 00:12:53,840you have to cross the spouse out.18700:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,260Like you have to start there and then kind of work your way out.18800:12:58,260 --> 00:13:04,600So to me, when the family talks about that they do not believe that the boyfriend was18900:13:04,600 --> 00:13:10,880investigated thoroughly, and really it's Lynn's sister, Lisa, doing a lot of the investigation19000:13:10,880 --> 00:13:16,860of contacting ex-girlfriends of this guy and transcribing those interviews and then sending19100:13:16,860 --> 00:13:17,860it to police.19200:13:17,860 --> 00:13:24,080So it's pretty clear that the family thinks that there needs to be more investigation19300:13:24,080 --> 00:13:30,040into him if for no other reason because he was the last person to see her before she19400:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,040disappeared.19500:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,040She never made it home.19600:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,800We know that she was pretty close to home, but she never made it there.19700:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,100So why?19800:13:37,100 --> 00:13:40,980And if Frank did not do it, what did he see?19900:13:40,980 --> 00:13:42,240Did he see any cars?20000:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,800Did he see any people walking with them?20100:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,920You know, was anybody on the sidewalk?20200:13:48,920 --> 00:13:55,620I think those are all questions that I would want answered if I, you know, was looking20300:13:55,620 --> 00:13:57,960into this case and allowed to investigate it.20400:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,840Those are all things that I would be asking and wanting to know and wanting to get a consistent20500:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,840answer.20600:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,040The police do say they have a suspect.20700:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,440They've never released the name in the case, but they do say that the suspect has been20800:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,240inconsistent with their statements.20900:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,400So that's something too, where is the inconsistencies coming from?21000:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,560That's something I would be very curious about.21100:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,040Oh, thank you for that.21200:14:22,040 --> 00:14:30,240And circling back to Lynn's sister, just what an incredible human being, like what she's21300:14:30,240 --> 00:14:37,040done since her sister's disappearance.21400:14:37,040 --> 00:14:43,680Even if I'm not mistaken, she moved away and then moved back with kind of like the intention21500:14:43,680 --> 00:14:51,880to devote a significant portion of her life to finding answers about what happened to21600:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,880her sister, right?21700:14:53,880 --> 00:15:03,760Yeah, just, I don't know if she'll hear this or anyone who knows her, but you're an amazing21800:15:03,760 --> 00:15:14,760person and while I don't understand what it is to go through experiencing a loved one21900:15:14,760 --> 00:15:23,400being missing or not having answers, I am now in a new chapter of my life where I understand22000:15:23,400 --> 00:15:30,800loss and the permanence that it takes up in you.22100:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,960I know I've mentioned it before with other people who've dedicated their lives to finding22200:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,520answers about their missing loved ones.22300:15:38,520 --> 00:15:45,880Again, I'm just echoing it here of like, when you are dedicating your life, you are dedicating22400:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,080every part of you to doing this.22500:15:51,080 --> 00:15:57,200I just think that she's an incredible person and a great sister.22600:15:57,200 --> 00:16:08,840To speak more on her boyfriend, Frank, I wasn't necessarily asking because I think or thought22700:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,720that it was him.22800:16:10,720 --> 00:16:16,760Unfortunately, I think with the existence of podcasts and just like true crime exposure22900:16:16,760 --> 00:16:25,560and media, the first 48 or whatever has notably ruined some people's lives when they weren't23000:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,600the person who committed the crime.23100:16:28,600 --> 00:16:36,720And you are, oh, I love you and I think you are amazing, but you are so mindful of that23200:16:36,720 --> 00:16:44,360even when you know a cold case like this is presenting itself with a very possible like,23300:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,400maybe this guy did it, you still speak about it with mindfulness.23400:16:47,400 --> 00:16:54,160So my next question to you is, and I can't remember if you mentioned this already, but23500:16:54,160 --> 00:17:00,600why did they, why did they first go in the direction of a runaway?23600:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,820I don't know for sure.23700:17:01,820 --> 00:17:07,200The police never really say their reasoning behind why they classified this as a runaway.23800:17:07,200 --> 00:17:14,040But given the South in 1985, I would think that this is a young black girl who didn't23900:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,000come home one day.24000:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,400And the police just weren't that worried about it.24100:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,960So what's kind of the easiest thing for a minor is to say they ran away and they'll24200:17:23,960 --> 00:17:30,120be on the lookout, you know, even though again, Lynn had no history of running away.24300:17:30,120 --> 00:17:33,280She had no history of even missing her curfew.24400:17:33,280 --> 00:17:39,360Like her family is very solid in their response that she was like a good girl.24500:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,960And even if you're quote, a bad kid, like you absolutely deserve to be looked for, but24600:17:43,960 --> 00:17:49,360this was so outside of the normal for Lynn, like she really respected and minded her parents24700:17:49,360 --> 00:17:54,880and kept to the curfew that they set for her and certainly wouldn't stay out all night.24800:17:54,880 --> 00:18:00,400So I think that it was just the police not really caring.24900:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,960Yeah.25000:18:01,960 --> 00:18:10,640Thank you for saying it as blatantly as I thought when I heard it was this is a pure25100:18:10,640 --> 00:18:22,760example of systemic racism and it's just disgusting and heartbreaking to know that they just didn't25200:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,400care that it just wasn't even anything else.25300:18:27,400 --> 00:18:34,920Yeah, you know, one thing that Lisa did talk about one of her goals kind of in reaching25400:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,980out and creating her own, you know, she created her own YouTube channel where she talks about25500:18:39,980 --> 00:18:45,640Lynn's case and also talks, you know, kind of interviews her mother, Clarice, on, you25600:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,360know, how Lynn got the name Jeffrey Lynn.25700:18:49,360 --> 00:18:56,860And I would hope that at some point the media really picks up the story and runs with it.25800:18:56,860 --> 00:19:02,780And Mr. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton can hear about it because I, you know, however25900:19:02,780 --> 00:19:08,440you feel about them, they're people with immense power, immense money, immense influence,26000:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,560and they can pour money into this investigation and not miss a beat out of their lives.26100:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,440And that was like a goal of Lisa's was to get this to Bill Clinton somehow.26200:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,720And like the family acknowledges, like, you know, the Clintons don't owe them anything.26300:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,280But if Bill Clinton is a humanitarian, as he claims to be, and the same with Hillary,26400:19:28,280 --> 00:19:35,480then this is something they should be interested in, especially having the connection of Clarice,26500:19:35,480 --> 00:19:43,000Lynn's mother, being a housekeeper for Bill Clinton's mother and a nanny to his brother,26600:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000who was, I believe, 13 at the time.26700:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,520So he knew Clarice very well and knew her through her pregnancy.26800:19:49,520 --> 00:19:55,120Clarice tells the story of when she was pregnant with Lynn, Bill Clinton came in, he was visiting26900:19:55,120 --> 00:20:00,200his family and he was out for a jog and came in and saw that Clarice was pregnant and asked27000:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,520her if she was going to eat a peanut butter and banana sandwich, because all pregnant27100:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,680women eat that, you know, they get those weird cravings or whatever.27200:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,760And she said no, like she was like, no, I'm not eating that.27300:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,120But you know, so there while there wasn't a lot of interaction between Bill and Clarice,27400:20:16,120 --> 00:20:22,640like there was like she was in his family's home, caring for his siblings, caring for27500:20:22,640 --> 00:20:29,000the mother, I believe, according to Clarice, Bill Clinton's mom was a nurse and she helped27600:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,880deliver Lynn.27700:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,640She was there when Lynn was born.27800:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,960So there's deep family connection there.27900:20:36,960 --> 00:20:44,120And I've personally never had a housekeeper or a nanny in my home as a child or as an28000:20:44,120 --> 00:20:45,120adult.28100:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,640That's that's never been part of my lifestyle.28200:20:47,640 --> 00:20:54,760But if I had somebody working in my home like that, and somebody that they loved went missing,28300:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,880even if I didn't know them personally, I would be very invested in getting an answer28400:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,440for them a resolution or if nothing else, just support.28500:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,840And that could come in a lot of ways, you know, that can come from just being a physical28600:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,480presence there, being a shoulder to lean on.28700:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,400And in cases where people do have housekeepers and nannies, it could be financial support,28800:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,840like supporting the family so they can look full time.28900:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,680Those are all things that can happen with Bill Clinton involved.29000:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,680Absolutely.29100:21:25,680 --> 00:21:31,480I would hope that someday soon the media picks this up, runs with it.29200:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,640It somehow gets to him and they can just pour money into the case and into the family and29300:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,080into the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and get a resolution because the answers29400:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,400are out there.29500:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,600It's clear that the police do have some ideas maybe about what happened.29600:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,240They continually search wooded areas, fields, they bring in cadaver dogs.29700:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,640We don't know if anything was ever found in those searches.29800:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,800It's kind of clear that they think it has to do with a deserted area.29900:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600So let's get the teams in there.30000:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,720Let's get the dogs in there.30100:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,900Let's get the searchers in there that are all over the nation.30200:22:09,900 --> 00:22:14,160Let's get them into Hot Springs, Arkansas and find out what happened to Lynn.30300:22:14,160 --> 00:22:21,640So again, if you know anything about the disappearance of Lynn Smith in 1985 or her whereabouts today,30400:22:21,640 --> 00:22:28,920please call the Hot Springs Police at 501-321-6789.30500:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,640And we mentioned that there is an age progress photo.30600:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,020We will be posting that on our Instagram along with some other photos that we found of Lynn30700:22:36,020 --> 00:22:37,480through the years.30800:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,240So please, if you're not following us there, please do.30900:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,520And of course, if there's ever going to be a delay in an episode getting out, we always31000:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,920post an update on our Instagram.31100:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,360So it's a great place to follow us just to keep up with the podcast.31200:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,800So come Monday morning, if you don't have an episode, you're in the know, you're in31300:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,800the why.31400:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,200So that's where you can find constant updates on our podcast.31500:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,800Also, if you need transcripts to follow along to the podcast, or if someone you love is31600:23:04,800 --> 00:23:10,520deaf or hard of hearing, you can go to coldandmissing.com where our transcripts are uploaded along31700:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,220with videos and all of our back catalogs.31800:23:13,220 --> 00:23:18,780So it's all over there for you to listen, read, watch, even review.31900:23:18,780 --> 00:23:21,040You can review us on there as well.32000:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,400Speaking of reviews, if you're an Apple podcast, if you could give us a written review, it32100:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,660means the world to us.32200:23:27,660 --> 00:23:32,480If you don't have time for that five stars, if you're in another podcast platform, whatever32300:23:32,480 --> 00:23:39,360that metric is a thumbs up, five stars, a plus sign, I know they're all different, but32400:23:39,360 --> 00:23:44,480whatever the positive one is, if you could give us one that helps us so much, it helps32500:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,360other people find us and ultimately it helps get these cases out to other people and just32600:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,580helps give validity to the podcast.32700:23:51,580 --> 00:23:56,760So you're doing us a huge solid by doing that and appreciate every single one that has come32800:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,000through already.32900:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,480I talk about y'all all the time and pray for you all the time.33000:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,720So that is that's in your podcast app.33100:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,720You can do that right now.33200:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,560But that is all I have.33300:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,800Thank you so much for listening to Cold and Missing.33400:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,320I'm your host, Allie McLaughlin-Solkowski.33500:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,000And I'm your cohost, Eli Slocowski.33600:24:16,000 --> 00:24:45,240Have a great week and stay safe, y'all.