Cold and Missing: Francis ‘Frank’ Cantea

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-Sulkowski. And I'm your co -host, Eli Sulkowski.

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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover

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cold cases and missing person cases. Hello, everyone,

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and welcome back to Cold and Missing. I'm your

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host, Ali. And I'm your co -host, Eli. Welcome

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back, everyone. So sorry about last week. We

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lost internet here at our apartment, and our

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landlord is completely in control of it. So we

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were at the mercy of our landlord for several

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days. So if you're a renter, you probably know

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what I'm talking about. Yes, but the problem

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is fixed. Everyone in the apartment building

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actually has Wi -Fi now, so we are back at it

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this week, and we are on episode 143. And this

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is a missing person case this week. All right,

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let's get into it. Let's do it. Today, we are

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talking about the missing person case of Francis

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Martin Cantea, and this takes place in July of

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1975 in Bremerton, Washington. But first, a little

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bit about Francis. Francis, or better known to

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family and friends as Frank, was 19 years old

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in July of 1975, but he was just a few weeks

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away from his 20th birthday. He lived in a rented

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apartment on his own in Bremerton, Washington.

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He had grown up nearby and his parents were still

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in his hometown. Frank was at the very start

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of adulthood. He had a bright future ahead of

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him. He had just begun an apprenticeship at the

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Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, where he was training

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as a pipe fitter. His mom, Anna, remembered how

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excited he was to get his life started. At this

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time in 1975, Frank was overweight, and according

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to his mother, he had been crash dieting, which

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can be a dangerous way to lose weight. He was

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doing this in the months leading up to his disappearance.

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Though through this process, he had lost 60 pounds

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prior to disappearing. Frank had been buying

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new clothes to fit his new size. When he disappeared,

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he stood about 5 '9 and was around 200 pounds,

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with curly blonde hair and brown eyes. His friends

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and family say that he smiled easily. He wasn't

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dating anyone at this time, but he had a small

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group of friends that he enjoyed hanging out

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with. He also enjoyed writing. He had even enrolled

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in a creative writing class at Olympic College.

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Frank had never been in trouble with the law,

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and no one knew of anyone who might have any

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reason to be upset with him. His family said

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that he had no enemies. And now, a timeline of

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events. Sunday, June 22, 1975. This is the last

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time that Anna sees her son. Frank went with

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his family for a day trip to Seattle, Washington.

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Anna later recalled that nothing seemed unusual

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about Frank or his behavior that day. He was

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acting normal, everyone remembered. He was easygoing

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and happy during the outing. His mother said,

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quote, he didn't seem troubled at all or upset

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in any way. Of course, you never know what's

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going on between a person's ears. On Monday,

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June 30, 1975, Frank skips work at the naval

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shipyard. Normally, he was dependable, so this

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was out of character. According to coworkers,

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he was unhappy with the classroom work of the

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apprenticeship, but otherwise he had liked working

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there. Thursday, July 3rd, 1975. This is the

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last time that Frank is seen alive. I do not

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have any details about what he was doing during

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the day. But what we do know is that during the

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evening, he stopped by his friend Dan DiRocco's

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house to return a record he had borrowed. Dan

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asked Frank if he wanted to stay for a minute

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and chat, but Frank said he couldn't stay, couldn't

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even sit down for a couple of minutes. Dan noticed

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Frank seemed nervous. Frank left quickly after

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dropping off the record, and by all accounts,

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this was the last confirmed sighting of him.

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Three days later, on Sunday, July 6th, 1975,

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another friend, Toby Daniels, calls Frank's mom,

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Anna. Toby asked if she knew where Frank was

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because their group of friends hadn't been able

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to reach him. His friends had assumed that he

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went to visit his parents. Anna informed them

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that Frank was not with her, but that she would

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head to his apartment to check on him. When Anna

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first arrived at the apartment, she was able

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to locate Frank's 1965 Mustang. It was parked

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outside of the apartment and it was locked. She

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heads to Frank's apartment and is able to get

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inside. It's unclear if the door was unlocked

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or if being his mother, she had a spare key.

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But either way, Anna gets inside. At first glance

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around Frank's apartment, nothing is really out

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of order. When she got to his bedroom, She quickly

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noticed several personal items were strewn across

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the top of his dresser, however. His wallet,

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his car keys, his house keys, work ID, comb,

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and money all were on the dresser. Inside his

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wallet were his IDs, credit cards, and about

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$32 in cash. Everything suggested Frank had only

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stepped out for a minute and fully intended to

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come back. Nothing was missing, nothing of note,

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nothing that you would take on an overnight trip

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was gone. Tuesday, July 8th, 1975. It's been

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five days since Frank was last seen. Anna and

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her husband, who also went by Frank, waited to

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hear from their son. Finally, after five days

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of not hearing from him or being able to get

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in touch with him, they called the police to

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report him missing and make a report. Police

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start to work on Frank's case slowly. The police

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department at this time had a belief that missing

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person cases resolve themselves for the most

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part. The people come back, they just went off

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the grid for a few days and didn't tell anyone.

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We do know that in those early days, police spoke

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with Frank's landlady, who said she hadn't heard

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any unusual noises coming from his apartment

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in the days leading up to his disappearance.

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He also had paid his rent for the month of July.

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However, the days start to trickle into weeks.

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The next update comes on Saturday, August 9th,

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1975, so it's been over a month since Frank went

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missing. With no leads to go off of, police ask

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the public for help. Police say they have interviewed

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family, friends, and coworkers, but no one could

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provide any answers as to where Frank went. Investigators

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ruled out financial trouble and noted Frank wasn't

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the type to hitchhike, go camping, or just wander

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off. He had never done it before in his 19, almost

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20 years. They did learn that he had been unhappy

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with the schooling portion of his apprenticeship

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and had recently stopped going to work. His last

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paycheck was still waiting for him at the shipyard.

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But other than this, they had no reason to think

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why Frank would disappear. His family reached

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out to relatives in California to ask them if

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any of them had heard from Frank. They hadn't.

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They asked the California family to reach out

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to friends Frank had in California, and none

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of them had heard from him either. Weeks turn

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into months. The next update is in January of

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1976, so Frank has been missing for six months

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at this point. There's been no sign of him. Police

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admit that there have been no real developments

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in Frank's case. They said that they have no

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reason to suspect an abduction. There were no

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signs of struggle at the apartment and nothing

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was missing, so they don't think this was a robbery

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gone wrong or anything like that. If Frank left

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on his own accord, he left with only the clothes

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on his back, it appears. Nothing else was missing,

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not his toothbrush, his wallet, his IDs, all

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of that was all left. While suicide was considered,

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his family strongly doubted it. They felt his

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body would have been found by now if that were

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the case. Months turn into years. The next update

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comes in June of 1977, so two years have passed

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since Frank was last seen. Frank's family have

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continued to search for answers. but she couldn't

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see anything about Frank's case. Rumors swirled

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around Frank's disappearance. Some said it was

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aliens. Others speculated he had joined a religious

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cult. The alien theory came from a piece that

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Frank had written in his creative writing class.

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Some even wondered if he had been recruited by

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the Navy for a classified assignment. Anna told

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reporters in 1977, People say it could be something

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from outer space, amnesia, or a religious cult.

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But why did he leave his wallet? Every time you

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put it all together, it just doesn't add up.

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We're at a head halt. That's what it is. The

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family did consider hiring a private investigator,

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but didn't know what new information they could

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provide the investigator. Every lead they'd had,

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they had turned over to police. and the family

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assumed that police had ran the lead down and

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there was nothing to develop from it. They didn't

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think the private investigator could add anything

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to the investigation. In February of 1980, so

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nearly five years after Frank's disappearance,

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and there are still no answers, police say that

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they have got very little leads over the years

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in Frank's case. There's been no activity on

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Frank's social security number at all. Police

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say, quite frankly, that they are at the same

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point today that they were five years ago, the

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day he vanished. One detective admitted that

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missing person cases just weren't a priority

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for the department. Quote, these should probably

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be updated more often, Detective Mace says. But

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we have to prioritize our own activities here

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and this just doesn't have a high priority. End

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quote. In February of 2005, Frank's family is

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issued a presumptive death certificate. The next

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update really is in 2008, so at that point it's

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been 33 years since Frank vanished. Anna is still

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looking for her son in 2008. She says, quote,

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She admitted that she's about 90 % certain. that

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he's no longer alive. However, that 10 % keeps

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her wondering. At this point, Anna has given

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police a sample of her own DNA. In case remains

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are found and Anna has already passed, they'll

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still be able to compare it, so that way hopefully

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there are answers in Frank's case. However, this

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is truly all we know about the disappearance

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of Frank Cantea. So if you know anything about

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the disappearance of Francis Frank Cantea or

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his whereabouts today, please call the Bremerton

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Police Department at 360 -473 -5220. So that

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is the missing person case of Frank Cantea. As

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always, I really enjoy hearing about the personalities

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of the... within the cases that you cover and

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investigate. And Francis, also known as Frank,

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sounded like a lovely guy at the beginning of

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his adulthood. I think it speaks volumes about

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his character that as he was exploring the beginnings

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of adulthood, he was taking a creative writing

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class. To me, that says, Someone is interested

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in their life and the surroundings of their life,

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and they're looking to express themselves creatively.

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I'm just so sad that we don't know what happened

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to him. I love learning about him, but these

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cases, especially the ones that come from the

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70s, I just hold a special place in my heart

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for because I know as time ticks by, the less

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and less likely it is that we will find answers.

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Yeah, Frank's case is one of those frustratingly

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thin cases. There wasn't a lot of information

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to go through, sift through, coming off of the

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Burger Chef murders that we had to break into

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two parts just because there were so many details

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known about it. And then moving to this case

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that there's very little known about it. You

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know, there's no real discussions happening about

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it, no real energy behind the case, no updates.

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His mother, Anna, has worked so hard over the

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years to keep it in the media. But, you know,

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we just don't know that much about what happened

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to Frank or the circumstances around it. Something

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that you brought up about him is that he was

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on quite possibly a health journey. I know you

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did mention crash dieting. So I, you know, obviously

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we can't speak on what his experience was. It

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seemed like there was some shifting and major

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changes happening in his life. And I do think

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that even though they are maybe just to like

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the regular world, like normal shifts in the

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timeline of a person's life, I think they're

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worth paying attention to because they could

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be pivotal moments in his timeline. Yeah, I definitely

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think. You know, that it's something to note,

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especially in the months leading up. It was something

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different going on in his life. And, you know,

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it's something that maybe was affecting him.

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We don't really know, of course, but crash dieting

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can be really dangerous for some individuals.

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So we don't know exactly what his experience

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was. But by all accounts, his family says that,

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you know, he was doing good. They saw him in

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the weeks leading up to his disappearance. One

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friend that was the last person to see him does

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say that he looked nervous. That's about the

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only real clue we get to Frank's mind during

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this time. To continue on just more about Frank,

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I just wanted a refresher on what his actual

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job was at the shipyard. I think I missed that

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part. So he was doing an apprenticeship as a

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pipe fitter at the shipyard. Okay, so this new...

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job slash apprenticeship that he's doing, again,

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I think it's worth taking note of that he disliked

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the coursework and that he stopped going and

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didn't share that with the people in his life

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or what seemed to be he didn't share with the

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people in his life. And I wanted to know if you

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felt the same, that it was maybe worth taking

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note of in what little we have of his timeline.

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Oh, for sure. Yeah. He didn't seem to like the

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coursework that is uncovered during the investigation.

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And one thing I am curious about, and it's a

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question I would have is how many days of work

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did he miss exactly? We know for sure one date,

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a couple of days before he's last seen. But whenever

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this is talked about, like in the paper at the

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time, it kind of sounds like maybe there were

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multiple days that were missed. But July or June

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30th is the only firm date that. I could find

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where he does officially miss work, kind of unprompted,

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doesn't call, no reason. But there could be more

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days. So I think that's definitely something

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to note. Like, why was he missing work that he

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seemed to otherwise enjoy? From listening to

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you and the way that you told the timeline, that

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was the sense that I got, that it was at least

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more than one day that there was a little bit

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of a pattern formed there. And I think that's

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why I took note of it. But continuing more into

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the timeline after his disappearance, I wanted

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to ask a question about the point when his mother

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makes her way into his apartment. I'm curious

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to know what you thought about the items strewn

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about the dresser. The description to me seemed

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almost posed, I guess. And I wanted to know what

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you thought about that. I don't know. You know,

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on the one hand, to me, it kind of sounds like

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you come home and, you know, you're emptying

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your pockets. Your wallet comes out, your keys,

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you know, your money, your change, a comb that

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you were carrying. You know, you just take everything

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out of your pockets and put them on the dresser.

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So there's like that one aspect where I'm like,

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that seems normal. But then what happened to

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him then? Beyond that, I have no idea. Yeah,

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something about the language that was always

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used of it being strewn across the dresser I

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think is really interesting because that is one

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detail that emerges again and again. Like his

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mom describes it that way, the police describe

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it that way. So that does seem to be something

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of note. It's just how the items were found.

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But it is curious that it is all the things,

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even the small things like your pocket change,

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you know, your cash is all left. You know, if

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you were leaving on your own free will, you'd

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think you'd take at least some of that with you,

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but that doesn't seem to be the case here. For

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me, and the way I broke it down, the way it looked

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in my head was similar to, you know, what our

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dresser looks like. Usually when I get home,

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I empty my pockets, and it contains my cell phone,

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my wallet, usually some change keys, almost exactly

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what he had. even down to the comb. And that's

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kind of how it read to me is that maybe he just

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took them out and was possibly changing. But

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again, because there is limited information here,

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it leaves lots of room for speculation, which

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is what my brain is trying to do. But again,

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so little details. I'm trying to make sense of

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what we know. Definitely. There's so little details

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in this. I think for me, One big question that

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I would have is just when was he first noticed

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missing? You know, he goes missing July 3rd.

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Was he expected somewhere July 4th? Was there

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a party that he missed? It seemed like by the

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time that his other friend calls his mom, like

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he is being missed by several folks at this point.

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So, you know, how many appointments were missed?

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You know, when were people expecting to see him?

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He didn't show up. I would just kind of be curious

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to know when exactly Frank was known to be missing.

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Since Frank was an adult, be it a young adult,

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it does not shock me that alarm bells weren't

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rung for his disappearance. I know that the work

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was being done, but given the time period as

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well, and honestly, the fact that he was a man.

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an adult man the general sense at the time was

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people are allowed to disappear especially if

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they're adults yeah you can just tell that the

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investigation was very slow and kind of by the

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time they realized there was a problem it was

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already too late like they had already lost all

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that time pivoting to speculation on just what

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the family spoke about and law enforcement kind

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of as they were grasping at straws to solve this

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case and move it forward you highlighted a bit

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about uh aliens and for me and knowing true crime

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and just um what my special interests are this

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time period was rife with conspiracy theories.

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The 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, it was the birth of

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cryptic culture. You know, the first speculative

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sighting of Bigfoot like had just happened not

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that long ago in relation to this time period.

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And stuff was coming out about confirmed UFO

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sightings, lots of misinformation. I don't know.

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I think it's a particular time for someone to

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go missing. Yeah, it really seemed that that

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just seemed to stem from something he had written

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in his creative writing class was related to

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aliens. That's really all I know. I don't know

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beyond that. the content of the paper was. But

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yeah, it really seems like for that time period,

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you know, the religious cults, alien abduction,

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it's like, yes, you know, the 70s was when a

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lot of that was kind of thriving. So yeah, all

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very time period. But I think when there's just

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that absence of information or just like firm

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facts to bring you to reality, it just leaves

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all this space for, well, anything is possible

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because like, He just vanished. You know, it

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really seems that everything was left in his

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apartment. Nothing was missing. So, you know,

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that's something I would love to confirm with

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investigators. But it's like truly nothing was

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missing from his apartment. No clothes, no bags,

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no nothing. Because if so, then it's, you know,

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he disappeared with the clothes he was wearing.

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Do we even know what clothes those were? Like,

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lots of questions. But again, it seems like they

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wouldn't have known. any of that because they

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weren't taking it seriously in those first few

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days first few weeks even just for the future

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of this case i do hope that we are able to get

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answers for what happened to frank because It

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just never sits well with me when somebody just

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goes missing. I like to have answers, and I think

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we should have answers for missing people. So,

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you know, if he did go off to start a new life,

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I hope he had a very happy life, but I hope he's

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able just to let somebody know that that's what

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happened. And if that's not the case, then I

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think we should have those answers too, and if

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somebody's responsible, they should have to answer

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for it. But again, if you know anything about

00:24:13.140 --> 00:24:17.059
the disappearance of Frank Cantea, in July of

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1975 or his whereabouts today, please call the

00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:27.380
Bremerton Police Department at 360 -473 -5220.

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I was able to find a photo of Frank, so we will

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:35.059
have that up. Eli will make the graphics on our

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