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The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts.
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All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages.
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Listener discretion is advised.
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I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.
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And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.
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And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.
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I'm your host, Ali.
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And I'm your co-host, Eli.
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Do you just want to go ahead and get into this week's case?
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Uh, yeah, I'd love to.
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I was out last week, so I'm very happy to be back and to jump back into what we do here.
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Let's get into it.
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So today I have a cold case.
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We are going to be going over the cold case of D’Lisa Kelly.
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And this takes place in March of 2014 in Dallas, Texas.
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But first, a little bit about D’Lisa.
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D’Lisa is 24 years old in 2014.
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She was a devoted mother to a young son and was also two months pregnant at this time.
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When D’Lisa’s family thinks of her, they think of her laugh.
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Her mother, Losandra Kelley, says, quote, that laugh, she had a laugh that would grab you
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from across the street, end quote.
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And now a timeline of events.
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On Friday, March 7th, 2014, D’Lisa is last seen at her grandmother's house.
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She was getting ready to go to her best friend's wake.
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Her best friend had recently passed away from a car accident.
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D’Lisa planned on taking the bus there.
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She was wearing a black long sleeve dress, leopard tights or leggings, and a denim vest.
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She had her long black hair pulled into a bun.
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She leaves her grandmother's house between 430 and 530, both times have been reported.
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At around 613 PM, D’Lisa will be caught on surveillance footage at a convenience store.
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She'll be seen exiting the store and getting into a 1986 Mercury Grand Marquis.
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At 645, just around a half hour after she was last seen on that surveillance footage,
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D’Lisa’s sister, Jasmine, gets a phone call from D’Lisa’s phone.
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Jasmine described it like a pocket dial.
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And Jasmine hears a fight in the background.
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Jasmine heard D’Lisa screaming, stop, stop, get off of me.
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Jasmine also heard a man say, shut up, stop screaming.
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You want to be hardheaded?
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The call lasts for one minute and 11 seconds.
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Jasmine is horrified by what she's hearing.
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When the phone call disconnects, Jasmine tries to call her sister back, but she can't get
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through.
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At 7 PM, 15 minutes after that phone call, Jasmine gets a text from D’Lisa’s phone that
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says, quote, call you in a minute, end quote.
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But D’Lisa never calls.
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When Jasmine texts D’Lisa back asking what was wrong and if someone was hitting her,
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D’Lisa responds back that he, quote unquote, thought she was with someone else.
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Jasmine contacts her grandmother, who makes the decision to call 911 at 838 PM to report
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D’Lisa missing.
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D’Lisa grandmother, Marjorita, can be heard on the 911 call saying, quote, she was
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screaming for her life, someone was beating her and we don't know who was with her, end
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quote.
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The 911 dispatcher takes the call and contacts the police sergeant asking if a missing person
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report should be filed.
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Sergeant Mansell is a bit hesitant and can be heard laughing on the police channel about
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D’Lisa.
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He'll later face disciplinary action for the way he responded.
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The 911 dispatcher calls D’Lisa’s grandmother and asks for D’Lisa’s phone number and says
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that they'll try to use that to contact her and find her location by pinging it.
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By 8 51 PM, the police sergeant is on the phone with the cell phone company.
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He requests a phone location.
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In a few minutes, however, the cell phone provider alerts him that there is no location
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data available.
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So this means either the phone is turned off or it has run out of battery.
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Police request that the cell phone company continue to try to locate the phone.
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However, at this time, there's no official missing person report filed for D’Lisa.
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The next day, Jasmine calls 911 herself and the responding officer completes a want to
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locate report.
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So still not a missing person report.
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Her family spends all day trying to contact her, but her phone is turned off.
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D’Lisa’s boyfriend contacts the police and passes along his information that evening.
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It takes until Sunday, March 9.
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D’Lisa has been missing for two days at this point.
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And finally, a detective is assigned to the case and the case is assigned to the missing
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person unit.
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D’Lisa’s family come down to the police station to answer questions and express concern
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that they haven't been able to reach her and that her phone is turned off.
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They tell police that D’Lisa has a two year old child and it is very uncharacteristic
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of her to leave him for an extended period of time, especially without telling the family
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where she's going.
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Police create a bulletin to send out to other patrol officers to be on the lookout.
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Police get the phone log from D’Lisa’s phone from the day that she went missing, but they're
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still unable to determine her location.
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Police also connect with D’Lisa’s boyfriend that day, but police say that no new information
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was generated from that conversation.
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Police call hospitals and morgues to see if there's anyone matching her description,
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but nobody had a match.
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On Monday, March 10, with no new leads, a detective visits D’Lisa’s grandmother and
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patrol officers canvas the area looking for any possible leads, but police don't find
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anything related to D’Lisa.
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Investigators have no leads in this case.
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Police reach out to Transit Police to see if D’Lisa could have boarded a bus, but there's
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no records of her getting on a bus.
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Police ask for the public's help in searching for D’Lisa and if anyone has any information
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to come forward.
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Detectives also request a copy of her best friend's sign-in book from The Wake to see
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if D’Lisa ever made it to the funeral home, but according to witnesses at The Wake, she
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never made it there.
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The next day, Tuesday, March 11, D’Lisa’s been missing for four days.
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Police hold another press conference asking for the public's help for any information
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about D’Lisa.
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Police interview D’Lisa’s family again, but this doesn't generate any new leads in the
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case.
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Police talk to friends of D’Lisa’s, but they also have no idea where D’Lisa could be.
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Police also reach out to local fire departments to see if any of them had had a run-in with
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D’Lisa in the past few days, but nobody has had any encounters like that.
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After the press conference, the next day, Wednesday, March 12, there's a windfall of
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tips from the community.
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Several people call in saying that they saw D’Lisa in the Market Center Drive in Oak Lawn
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Avenue area in Dallas.
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Investigators swarm the area to canvas businesses, restaurants, hotels, and a nearby Greyhound
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Terminal to see if they can find D’Lisa.
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One business owner says that she saw D’Lisa in her store yesterday morning.
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That evening, an anonymous call comes into the tip line saying that D’Lisa was at the
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Stop and Save store on the corner of Sunnyvale and Overtown Road between 530 and 6pm the
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day that she disappeared.
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The next day, D’Lisa has been missing for six days now.
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On Thursday, March 13, another anonymous call comes into the police tip line.
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Again, the caller says that D’Lisa was at the Stop and Save the day she disappeared.
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This time, the caller says it was around 630.
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Police try to get security footage from the store, but they say they're unable to retrieve
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it.
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However, local media outlets do confirm that there is surveillance footage of her at the
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Stop and Save, which I mentioned earlier.
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So there is footage of her at the Stop and Save, entering the store and then exiting
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the store on the day that she disappears.
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On Friday, March 14, 2014, D’Lisa has been missing for one week.
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At around 1030am, a South Central Patrol officer notified the missing person unit that a body
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had been located on Presidio Avenue.
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When detectives arrive to the scene, they find an abandoned house and on the front porch
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is the body of D’Lisa Kelley.
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She is located only six minutes away from where she was last seen on surveillance footage.
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Police are able to positively ID her and homicide detectives take the case over.
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D’Lisa had been severely beaten, strangled, her jaw was crushed, and she had wounds all
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over her face and head.
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Immediately, D’Lisa’s family and friends are critical of the police.
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They believe that more should have been done the night they called 911 since they had reason
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to believe that D’Lisa was in distress.
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Police defend their work and release a detailed minute-by-minute account of the work that
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they've done on the case starting at the 911 call, which is where a lot of the timeline
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has come from.
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The family will stay in the news as they continue to criticize the police and they do bring
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a lawsuit against the police as well for the way that they responded.
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But really, the family begins to lobby for something called the Kelley Alert, which would
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be an adult alert in the state of Texas if there's reason to believe that there is distress
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for an adult.
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So it kind of bridges the gap between Amber Alert and Silver Alerts.
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It would be the Kelley Alert.
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So that is really when the family is in the news a lot over the next few years.
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But as far as updates to D’Lisa’s case, in March of 2017, so it's been three years since
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D’Lisa was murdered, and police have exhausted every lead.
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Police do confirm that they have talked to the driver of the Grand Marquis, the car that
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D’Lisa is seen getting into minutes before her sister will get the phone call of D’Lisa,
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but the driver is never named as a suspect.
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D’Lisa’s mother, Lissandra, says, quote, we're going to get justice.
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We're going to find you.
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You can't hide forever, and we will get justice.
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My grandson will get justice, end quote.
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In 2019, after lots of work by D’Lisa’s family between lobbying and talking with legislators,
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the Kelley Alert is created and is currently active in the state of Texas.
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It was signed into law.
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D’Lisa’s family felt that the police's response was weak and hopes that by creating
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the Kelley Alert, police will respond quicker in the future.
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But as far as D’Lisa’s case goes, there's been no updates.
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So with that, if you know anything about the murder of D’Lisa Kelley in March of 2014, please
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call the Dallas Police Homicide Unit at 214-671-3632.
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And the sources for the timeline today come from the Dallas Morning News, WFAA 8, NBC
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5, DFW, KDAF, and the Kelley Alert Foundation.
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So that is the case of D’Lisa Kelley.
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This is one of those cases where I was pretty furious throughout after hearing the initial
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reception from law enforcement and how her case was handled.
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All I kept thinking is, we really can't get that moment back.
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That was that man's response at the time, which was to laugh.
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It was frightening, honestly.
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And I don't understand how someone who would have that kind of response makes it that high
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up.
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Like, that's how I was feeling.
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Like, this woman was failed.
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So deeply failed.
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And it's heartbreaking.
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Yeah, I think this case really demonstrates how important those first 24 hours are surrounding
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somebody going missing.
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Even though the sergeant had a really gross reaction to D’Lisa being missing, a really
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inappropriate reaction, there was still movement on her case.
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It just wasn't the right movement.
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You know, like they attempt to ping her cell phone, but they don't really start on the
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case until she's been missing for around 72 hours.
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And by that time, it was just too late.
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I think anyone who is interested in true crime and solving true crimes knows, like how you
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said, how important the first 24 hours are, especially in the case of an adult.
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I think it doesn't move as quick when it isn't a child, first and foremost.
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And I am very glad that her family continued to speak out about how they felt the investigation
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was going, how it went, how it continued to go, and that they did what I would name a
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positive with this terrible loss.
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And that's the Kelley Alert.
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I'm glad that that was something that was signed into law.
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I was very happy to hear that when you said that.
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Yeah, I thought that was a really incredible way to like honor D’Lisa and to help others
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like in her name in the future.
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Yeah, if there's reason to believe that an adult is under distress, you shouldn't have
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to wait 42, 72 hours, whatever that jurisdiction's time length is for a missing adult.
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Like if there's good reason to believe that something bad is happening to them, like there
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was in D’Lisa’s case, then yeah, we should be looking for them right away.
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I don't understand how when they had a phone call of her clearly in trouble with her sister
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to corroborate the phone call, how it moved in the wrong direction.
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I'm curious what some of your thoughts are on maybe who that person was with her, the
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car, why it was rolled out, if there's any more information about who that person was.
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Yeah, that's one of the areas that I have just questions around because I can't fill
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in the blanks of the story until I kind of know everything.
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And knowing who she got in the car with and what that car ride entailed, because that
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was only about a half hour before the phone call comes through to her sister.
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That was like a pocket dial according to her sister Jasmine.
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So what happened in that half hour?
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Police did find the driver of that car, but they're kind of, it's kind of interesting
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how they worded it.
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It was never like he was ruled out or they were ruled out, but they weren't included
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as a suspect either.
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So I don't know if there's just not enough information there.
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So I would be curious if that person driving the car doesn't know more than it's like,
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well, where did he or they or she I don't know the driver of the car.
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Where did they get dropped off then?
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Where did D’Lisa get dropped off?
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What happened during that car ride?
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Did somebody call?
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Did somebody else pick her up?
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So lots of questions around that.
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I'm not sure if you would have the answer to this, but do you know if just, you know,
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say for example, if we filed a FOIA request for this case, would we be able to have access
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to a bit more information?
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Or if it's a cold case, that means it's open or active.
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Do we do you not get access to that?
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Or is information usually redacted?
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Or I guess that's more of a detailed question.
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Lots of questions within that question.
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But I figured you would be the person to know, my love.
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Likely if we did a FOIA or Freedom of Information Act request, because this case is not solved,
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it is technically open, even if it's not active.
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So more than likely, we would not get any files in this case.
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The police would just deny it, citing that it's an open investigation.
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And if we were to get anything, it would be heavily redacted to the point where names
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would have been removed, details, like it would just be like a lot of Sharpie on a piece
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of paper, essentially.
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So there have been instances of people getting access to case files, like Michelle McNamara
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in I'll Be Gone in the Dark when she was writing and researching that book.
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In that case, she got access to case files.
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But it's pretty rare and few and far between when that happens.
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I guess another question I would have that would kind of tie into my future hopes for
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the case is just what evidence were they able to collect?
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You know, it happened in 2014.
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So were they able to gather any DNA evidence?
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Is there anything that could be tested now that maybe they weren't able to test then
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through advances in technology?
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So that's one thing that has never really been spoken about is what evidence the police
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do have.
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So my hope would be that there is some kind of DNA evidence that at some point, they would
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be able to match against somebody that you know, that would be my hope, but truly don't
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know if that is the case with D’Lisa.
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Yeah, of the more intense and disturbing and very sad details of the case, it seemed like
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her body was in quite a state.
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So if that person wasn't wearing, you know, gloves, I imagine there was a lot of evidence.
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I echo what you said.
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I'm curious to know the details of that because it seems like there could be a lot of answers
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there.
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Absolutely, and you know, we really don't know a whole bunch about the crime scene itself.
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We know it was an abandoned house and she was found on the porch.
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But, you know, we don't know if that is the site where police think that the murder took
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place.
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We don't know if she was just dumped there.
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We don't even really know what day police believe that she died.
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If she died the day she disappeared, or if it was a few days after that information is
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never really given.
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Reading between the lines of like what the family is saying and their reactions over
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the years, it does seem like she was probably killed the day she disappeared.
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But yeah, there's just still so much unknown to us that I hope is known to investigators
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because it feels like, you know, just some DNA that they're able to test against people
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will be huge.
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You know, fibers could be huge.
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So yeah, I just really hope they have it.
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I hope that the Lisa's case is continually worked until it is solved.
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I hope today and with our listeners now that you all as as active as you are able to be
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even just, you know, looking up to Lisa, like, of course, you know, we'd love for you to
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listen and share and tell people to listen to this episode to amplify her name, but movement
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can continue outside of this podcast too.
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And you know, ultimately, like we say pretty much every episode, that's what our end goal
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is here to amplify these names and voices of people who are lost, lost in so much red
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tape a lot of the time, or just forgotten about.
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So really, you know, today, if you after listening to this, if you are, you know, continue to
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think about her, I encourage you to, you know, plug her name into Google and see what you
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can find out even if it's more than what we can do here.
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I say we but it's Ali who does this investigative research, and she does an incredible job.
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But she loves learning more to continue to do what our goal is for the podcast.
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So other people looking is is great.
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More eyes on on the person in these cases is is what we want.
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And again, if you know anything about the murder of D’Lisa Kelley in March of 2014, please
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call the Dallas police homicide unit at 214-671-3632.
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And you know, just as Eli was saying, another way that you can lift up these voices, lift
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up these stories is by rating and reviewing this podcast by leaving a written review and
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Apple podcasts, it really helps others find our podcast, find these stories, find these
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cases so please if you have a minute, we would appreciate it so much.
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Also following us on Instagram, sharing our graphics that are made over there, of course,
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we'll be sharing photos of D’Lisa this week.
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So if you're not following us, you can find us at cold and missing will pop right up.
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And of course, our website as well.
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We have transcripts of all the episodes www.coldandmissing.com so you can find those over there.
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And we're also on YouTube.
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If you want to subscribe and listen to us over there, you can find us there and we have
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wonderful conversations in the comment section.
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So lots of ways to interact lots of ways to get the algorithm talking about D’Lisa.
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Thank you again so much for listening to cold and missing.
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I'm your host, Ali.
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And I'm your co host, Eli.
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Have a good week and stay safe, y'all.
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Stay safe, y'all.
