Cold and Missing: D’Lisa Kelley

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts.200:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.300:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages.400:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560Listener discretion is advised.500:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.600:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.700:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,440And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.800:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,960Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.900:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,520I'm your host, Ali.1000:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,960And I'm your co-host, Eli.1100:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,800Do you just want to go ahead and get into this week's case?1200:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,440Uh, yeah, I'd love to.1300:00:45,440 --> 00:00:52,240I was out last week, so I'm very happy to be back and to jump back into what we do here.1400:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,900Let's get into it.1500:00:53,900 --> 00:00:56,000So today I have a cold case.1600:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,560We are going to be going over the cold case of D’Lisa Kelly.1700:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,280And this takes place in March of 2014 in Dallas, Texas.1800:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,240But first, a little bit about D’Lisa.1900:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,440D’Lisa is 24 years old in 2014.2000:01:12,440 --> 00:01:18,120She was a devoted mother to a young son and was also two months pregnant at this time.2100:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,600When D’Lisa’s family thinks of her, they think of her laugh.2200:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,640Her mother, Losandra Kelley, says, quote, that laugh, she had a laugh that would grab you2300:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,760from across the street, end quote.2400:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,860And now a timeline of events.2500:01:32,860 --> 00:01:39,520On Friday, March 7th, 2014, D’Lisa is last seen at her grandmother's house.2600:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,560She was getting ready to go to her best friend's wake.2700:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,120Her best friend had recently passed away from a car accident.2800:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,080D’Lisa planned on taking the bus there.2900:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,780She was wearing a black long sleeve dress, leopard tights or leggings, and a denim vest.3000:01:55,780 --> 00:01:59,020She had her long black hair pulled into a bun.3100:01:59,020 --> 00:02:04,840She leaves her grandmother's house between 430 and 530, both times have been reported.3200:02:04,840 --> 00:02:11,360At around 613 PM, D’Lisa will be caught on surveillance footage at a convenience store.3300:02:11,360 --> 00:02:17,160She'll be seen exiting the store and getting into a 1986 Mercury Grand Marquis.3400:02:17,160 --> 00:02:23,280At 645, just around a half hour after she was last seen on that surveillance footage,3500:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,280D’Lisa’s sister, Jasmine, gets a phone call from D’Lisa’s phone.3600:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,280Jasmine described it like a pocket dial.3700:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,920And Jasmine hears a fight in the background.3800:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,320Jasmine heard D’Lisa screaming, stop, stop, get off of me.3900:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,040Jasmine also heard a man say, shut up, stop screaming.4000:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,520You want to be hardheaded?4100:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,760The call lasts for one minute and 11 seconds.4200:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,760Jasmine is horrified by what she's hearing.4300:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,040When the phone call disconnects, Jasmine tries to call her sister back, but she can't get4400:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,240through.4500:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,560At 7 PM, 15 minutes after that phone call, Jasmine gets a text from D’Lisa’s phone that4600:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,000says, quote, call you in a minute, end quote.4700:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,960But D’Lisa never calls.4800:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,840When Jasmine texts D’Lisa back asking what was wrong and if someone was hitting her,4900:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,360D’Lisa responds back that he, quote unquote, thought she was with someone else.5000:03:17,360 --> 00:03:23,440Jasmine contacts her grandmother, who makes the decision to call 911 at 838 PM to report5100:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,760D’Lisa missing.5200:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,080D’Lisa grandmother, Marjorita, can be heard on the 911 call saying, quote, she was5300:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,560screaming for her life, someone was beating her and we don't know who was with her, end5400:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,560quote.5500:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,800The 911 dispatcher takes the call and contacts the police sergeant asking if a missing person5600:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,000report should be filed.5700:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000Sergeant Mansell is a bit hesitant and can be heard laughing on the police channel about5800:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000D’Lisa.5900:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,480He'll later face disciplinary action for the way he responded.6000:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,800The 911 dispatcher calls D’Lisa’s grandmother and asks for D’Lisa’s phone number and says6100:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,800that they'll try to use that to contact her and find her location by pinging it.6200:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,280By 8 51 PM, the police sergeant is on the phone with the cell phone company.6300:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560He requests a phone location.6400:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,080In a few minutes, however, the cell phone provider alerts him that there is no location6500:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,600data available.6600:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,520So this means either the phone is turned off or it has run out of battery.6700:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,480Police request that the cell phone company continue to try to locate the phone.6800:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,280However, at this time, there's no official missing person report filed for D’Lisa.6900:04:29,280 --> 00:04:34,500The next day, Jasmine calls 911 herself and the responding officer completes a want to7000:04:34,500 --> 00:04:35,840locate report.7100:04:35,840 --> 00:04:37,920So still not a missing person report.7200:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,120Her family spends all day trying to contact her, but her phone is turned off.7300:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,560D’Lisa’s boyfriend contacts the police and passes along his information that evening.7400:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,960It takes until Sunday, March 9.7500:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880D’Lisa has been missing for two days at this point.7600:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,880And finally, a detective is assigned to the case and the case is assigned to the missing7700:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,120person unit.7800:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,280D’Lisa’s family come down to the police station to answer questions and express concern7900:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,880that they haven't been able to reach her and that her phone is turned off.8000:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,740They tell police that D’Lisa has a two year old child and it is very uncharacteristic8100:05:12,740 --> 00:05:17,560of her to leave him for an extended period of time, especially without telling the family8200:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,080where she's going.8300:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,560Police create a bulletin to send out to other patrol officers to be on the lookout.8400:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,480Police get the phone log from D’Lisa’s phone from the day that she went missing, but they're8500:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,540still unable to determine her location.8600:05:30,540 --> 00:05:35,820Police also connect with D’Lisa’s boyfriend that day, but police say that no new information8700:05:35,820 --> 00:05:38,720was generated from that conversation.8800:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,800Police call hospitals and morgues to see if there's anyone matching her description,8900:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,700but nobody had a match.9000:05:44,700 --> 00:05:49,920On Monday, March 10, with no new leads, a detective visits D’Lisa’s grandmother and9100:05:49,920 --> 00:05:55,600patrol officers canvas the area looking for any possible leads, but police don't find9200:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,640anything related to D’Lisa.9300:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,020Investigators have no leads in this case.9400:06:01,020 --> 00:06:05,200Police reach out to Transit Police to see if D’Lisa could have boarded a bus, but there's9500:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,800no records of her getting on a bus.9600:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,740Police ask for the public's help in searching for D’Lisa and if anyone has any information9700:06:11,740 --> 00:06:13,560to come forward.9800:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,080Detectives also request a copy of her best friend's sign-in book from The Wake to see9900:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,240if D’Lisa ever made it to the funeral home, but according to witnesses at The Wake, she10000:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,140never made it there.10100:06:25,140 --> 00:06:30,600The next day, Tuesday, March 11, D’Lisa’s been missing for four days.10200:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,840Police hold another press conference asking for the public's help for any information10300:06:34,840 --> 00:06:36,560about D’Lisa.10400:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,480Police interview D’Lisa’s family again, but this doesn't generate any new leads in the10500:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,680case.10600:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,560Police talk to friends of D’Lisa’s, but they also have no idea where D’Lisa could be.10700:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,800Police also reach out to local fire departments to see if any of them had had a run-in with10800:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,640D’Lisa in the past few days, but nobody has had any encounters like that.10900:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,680After the press conference, the next day, Wednesday, March 12, there's a windfall of11000:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,560tips from the community.11100:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,440Several people call in saying that they saw D’Lisa in the Market Center Drive in Oak Lawn11200:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,920Avenue area in Dallas.11300:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,520Investigators swarm the area to canvas businesses, restaurants, hotels, and a nearby Greyhound11400:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,800Terminal to see if they can find D’Lisa.11500:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,040One business owner says that she saw D’Lisa in her store yesterday morning.11600:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,280That evening, an anonymous call comes into the tip line saying that D’Lisa was at the11700:07:30,280 --> 00:07:36,920Stop and Save store on the corner of Sunnyvale and Overtown Road between 530 and 6pm the11800:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,680day that she disappeared.11900:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,520The next day, D’Lisa has been missing for six days now.12000:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,160On Thursday, March 13, another anonymous call comes into the police tip line.12100:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,920Again, the caller says that D’Lisa was at the Stop and Save the day she disappeared.12200:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,800This time, the caller says it was around 630.12300:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,400Police try to get security footage from the store, but they say they're unable to retrieve12400:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,400it.12500:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,800However, local media outlets do confirm that there is surveillance footage of her at the12600:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,560Stop and Save, which I mentioned earlier.12700:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,760So there is footage of her at the Stop and Save, entering the store and then exiting12800:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600the store on the day that she disappears.12900:08:15,600 --> 00:08:21,360On Friday, March 14, 2014, D’Lisa has been missing for one week.13000:08:21,360 --> 00:08:27,660At around 1030am, a South Central Patrol officer notified the missing person unit that a body13100:08:27,660 --> 00:08:30,680had been located on Presidio Avenue.13200:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,760When detectives arrive to the scene, they find an abandoned house and on the front porch13300:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,200is the body of D’Lisa Kelley.13400:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,960She is located only six minutes away from where she was last seen on surveillance footage.13500:08:43,960 --> 00:08:49,360Police are able to positively ID her and homicide detectives take the case over.13600:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,840D’Lisa had been severely beaten, strangled, her jaw was crushed, and she had wounds all13700:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920over her face and head.13800:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,320Immediately, D’Lisa’s family and friends are critical of the police.13900:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,800They believe that more should have been done the night they called 911 since they had reason14000:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,680to believe that D’Lisa was in distress.14100:09:08,680 --> 00:09:13,040Police defend their work and release a detailed minute-by-minute account of the work that14200:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,640they've done on the case starting at the 911 call, which is where a lot of the timeline14300:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,680has come from.14400:09:19,680 --> 00:09:24,440The family will stay in the news as they continue to criticize the police and they do bring14500:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,160a lawsuit against the police as well for the way that they responded.14600:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,240But really, the family begins to lobby for something called the Kelley Alert, which would14700:09:34,240 --> 00:09:40,560be an adult alert in the state of Texas if there's reason to believe that there is distress14800:09:40,560 --> 00:09:41,560for an adult.14900:09:41,560 --> 00:09:46,120So it kind of bridges the gap between Amber Alert and Silver Alerts.15000:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,400It would be the Kelley Alert.15100:09:47,400 --> 00:09:53,000So that is really when the family is in the news a lot over the next few years.15200:09:53,000 --> 00:09:59,280But as far as updates to D’Lisa’s case, in March of 2017, so it's been three years since15300:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,480D’Lisa was murdered, and police have exhausted every lead.15400:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,200Police do confirm that they have talked to the driver of the Grand Marquis, the car that15500:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,680D’Lisa is seen getting into minutes before her sister will get the phone call of D’Lisa,15600:10:13,680 --> 00:10:16,400but the driver is never named as a suspect.15700:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,800D’Lisa’s mother, Lissandra, says, quote, we're going to get justice.15800:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,960We're going to find you.15900:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,320You can't hide forever, and we will get justice.16000:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,440My grandson will get justice, end quote.16100:10:28,440 --> 00:10:36,640In 2019, after lots of work by D’Lisa’s family between lobbying and talking with legislators,16200:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,640the Kelley Alert is created and is currently active in the state of Texas.16300:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,160It was signed into law.16400:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,760D’Lisa’s family felt that the police's response was weak and hopes that by creating16500:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,300the Kelley Alert, police will respond quicker in the future.16600:10:51,300 --> 00:10:55,800But as far as D’Lisa’s case goes, there's been no updates.16700:10:55,800 --> 00:11:02,320So with that, if you know anything about the murder of D’Lisa Kelley in March of 2014, please16800:11:02,320 --> 00:11:09,040call the Dallas Police Homicide Unit at 214-671-3632.16900:11:09,040 --> 00:11:15,320And the sources for the timeline today come from the Dallas Morning News, WFAA 8, NBC17000:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,4805, DFW, KDAF, and the Kelley Alert Foundation.17100:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,160So that is the case of D’Lisa Kelley.17200:11:25,160 --> 00:11:33,600This is one of those cases where I was pretty furious throughout after hearing the initial17300:11:33,600 --> 00:11:39,320reception from law enforcement and how her case was handled.17400:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,620All I kept thinking is, we really can't get that moment back.17500:11:43,620 --> 00:11:47,680That was that man's response at the time, which was to laugh.17600:11:47,680 --> 00:11:50,320It was frightening, honestly.17700:11:50,320 --> 00:11:57,840And I don't understand how someone who would have that kind of response makes it that high17800:11:57,840 --> 00:11:58,840up.17900:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,920Like, that's how I was feeling.18000:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,640Like, this woman was failed.18100:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,640So deeply failed.18200:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,640And it's heartbreaking.18300:12:07,640 --> 00:12:17,000Yeah, I think this case really demonstrates how important those first 24 hours are surrounding18400:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,020somebody going missing.18500:12:20,020 --> 00:12:27,920Even though the sergeant had a really gross reaction to D’Lisa being missing, a really18600:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,120inappropriate reaction, there was still movement on her case.18700:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,520It just wasn't the right movement.18800:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,440You know, like they attempt to ping her cell phone, but they don't really start on the18900:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,760case until she's been missing for around 72 hours.19000:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,600And by that time, it was just too late.19100:12:50,600 --> 00:13:00,040I think anyone who is interested in true crime and solving true crimes knows, like how you19200:13:00,040 --> 00:13:07,640said, how important the first 24 hours are, especially in the case of an adult.19300:13:07,640 --> 00:13:15,320I think it doesn't move as quick when it isn't a child, first and foremost.19400:13:15,320 --> 00:13:25,240And I am very glad that her family continued to speak out about how they felt the investigation19500:13:25,240 --> 00:13:32,920was going, how it went, how it continued to go, and that they did what I would name a19600:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,640positive with this terrible loss.19700:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,880And that's the Kelley Alert.19800:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,600I'm glad that that was something that was signed into law.19900:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,960I was very happy to hear that when you said that.20000:13:45,960 --> 00:13:53,000Yeah, I thought that was a really incredible way to like honor D’Lisa and to help others20100:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,400like in her name in the future.20200:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,960Yeah, if there's reason to believe that an adult is under distress, you shouldn't have20300:14:00,960 --> 00:14:08,480to wait 42, 72 hours, whatever that jurisdiction's time length is for a missing adult.20400:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,520Like if there's good reason to believe that something bad is happening to them, like there20500:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,840was in D’Lisa’s case, then yeah, we should be looking for them right away.20600:14:16,840 --> 00:14:25,240I don't understand how when they had a phone call of her clearly in trouble with her sister20700:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,680to corroborate the phone call, how it moved in the wrong direction.20800:14:31,680 --> 00:14:40,240I'm curious what some of your thoughts are on maybe who that person was with her, the20900:14:40,240 --> 00:14:47,040car, why it was rolled out, if there's any more information about who that person was.21000:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,960Yeah, that's one of the areas that I have just questions around because I can't fill21100:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,680in the blanks of the story until I kind of know everything.21200:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,040And knowing who she got in the car with and what that car ride entailed, because that21300:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,600was only about a half hour before the phone call comes through to her sister.21400:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,600That was like a pocket dial according to her sister Jasmine.21500:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,600So what happened in that half hour?21600:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,080Police did find the driver of that car, but they're kind of, it's kind of interesting21700:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,080how they worded it.21800:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,800It was never like he was ruled out or they were ruled out, but they weren't included21900:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,300as a suspect either.22000:15:26,300 --> 00:15:30,680So I don't know if there's just not enough information there.22100:15:30,680 --> 00:15:37,080So I would be curious if that person driving the car doesn't know more than it's like,22200:15:37,080 --> 00:15:44,160well, where did he or they or she I don't know the driver of the car.22300:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,960Where did they get dropped off then?22400:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,740Where did D’Lisa get dropped off?22500:15:48,740 --> 00:15:50,320What happened during that car ride?22600:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,320Did somebody call?22700:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,480Did somebody else pick her up?22800:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,620So lots of questions around that.22900:15:55,620 --> 00:16:02,680I'm not sure if you would have the answer to this, but do you know if just, you know,23000:16:02,680 --> 00:16:10,120say for example, if we filed a FOIA request for this case, would we be able to have access23100:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,920to a bit more information?23200:16:13,920 --> 00:16:20,240Or if it's a cold case, that means it's open or active.23300:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,720Do we do you not get access to that?23400:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,760Or is information usually redacted?23500:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,040Or I guess that's more of a detailed question.23600:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,880Lots of questions within that question.23700:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,720But I figured you would be the person to know, my love.23800:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,980Likely if we did a FOIA or Freedom of Information Act request, because this case is not solved,23900:16:45,980 --> 00:16:50,680it is technically open, even if it's not active.24000:16:50,680 --> 00:16:58,240So more than likely, we would not get any files in this case.24100:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,480The police would just deny it, citing that it's an open investigation.24200:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,720And if we were to get anything, it would be heavily redacted to the point where names24300:17:07,720 --> 00:17:14,440would have been removed, details, like it would just be like a lot of Sharpie on a piece24400:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,800of paper, essentially.24500:17:15,800 --> 00:17:23,320So there have been instances of people getting access to case files, like Michelle McNamara24600:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,360in I'll Be Gone in the Dark when she was writing and researching that book.24700:17:27,360 --> 00:17:31,520In that case, she got access to case files.24800:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,240But it's pretty rare and few and far between when that happens.24900:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,760I guess another question I would have that would kind of tie into my future hopes for25000:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,440the case is just what evidence were they able to collect?25100:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,660You know, it happened in 2014.25200:17:49,660 --> 00:17:53,920So were they able to gather any DNA evidence?25300:17:53,920 --> 00:18:01,120Is there anything that could be tested now that maybe they weren't able to test then25400:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,960through advances in technology?25500:18:02,960 --> 00:18:09,780So that's one thing that has never really been spoken about is what evidence the police25600:18:09,780 --> 00:18:11,320do have.25700:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,720So my hope would be that there is some kind of DNA evidence that at some point, they would25800:18:16,720 --> 00:18:22,440be able to match against somebody that you know, that would be my hope, but truly don't25900:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,320know if that is the case with D’Lisa.26000:18:26,320 --> 00:18:38,840Yeah, of the more intense and disturbing and very sad details of the case, it seemed like26100:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,440her body was in quite a state.26200:18:42,440 --> 00:18:54,120So if that person wasn't wearing, you know, gloves, I imagine there was a lot of evidence.26300:18:54,120 --> 00:18:57,840I echo what you said.26400:18:57,840 --> 00:19:04,280I'm curious to know the details of that because it seems like there could be a lot of answers26500:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,280there.26600:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,800Absolutely, and you know, we really don't know a whole bunch about the crime scene itself.26700:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,640We know it was an abandoned house and she was found on the porch.26800:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,920But, you know, we don't know if that is the site where police think that the murder took26900:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,920place.27000:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,000We don't know if she was just dumped there.27100:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,120We don't even really know what day police believe that she died.27200:19:29,120 --> 00:19:34,280If she died the day she disappeared, or if it was a few days after that information is27300:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720never really given.27400:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,800Reading between the lines of like what the family is saying and their reactions over27500:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,360the years, it does seem like she was probably killed the day she disappeared.27600:19:45,360 --> 00:19:52,760But yeah, there's just still so much unknown to us that I hope is known to investigators27700:19:52,760 --> 00:19:59,840because it feels like, you know, just some DNA that they're able to test against people27800:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,180will be huge.27900:20:02,180 --> 00:20:04,960You know, fibers could be huge.28000:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,960So yeah, I just really hope they have it.28100:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,760I hope that the Lisa's case is continually worked until it is solved.28200:20:13,760 --> 00:20:21,960I hope today and with our listeners now that you all as as active as you are able to be28300:20:21,960 --> 00:20:29,680even just, you know, looking up to Lisa, like, of course, you know, we'd love for you to28400:20:29,680 --> 00:20:36,840listen and share and tell people to listen to this episode to amplify her name, but movement28500:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,840can continue outside of this podcast too.28600:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,880And you know, ultimately, like we say pretty much every episode, that's what our end goal28700:20:44,880 --> 00:20:55,400is here to amplify these names and voices of people who are lost, lost in so much red28800:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,200tape a lot of the time, or just forgotten about.28900:21:00,200 --> 00:21:07,320So really, you know, today, if you after listening to this, if you are, you know, continue to29000:21:07,320 --> 00:21:14,200think about her, I encourage you to, you know, plug her name into Google and see what you29100:21:14,200 --> 00:21:20,400can find out even if it's more than what we can do here.29200:21:20,400 --> 00:21:27,360I say we but it's Ali who does this investigative research, and she does an incredible job.29300:21:27,360 --> 00:21:35,680But she loves learning more to continue to do what our goal is for the podcast.29400:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,160So other people looking is is great.29500:21:39,160 --> 00:21:44,960More eyes on on the person in these cases is is what we want.29600:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,880And again, if you know anything about the murder of D’Lisa Kelley in March of 2014, please29700:21:50,880 --> 00:21:57,720call the Dallas police homicide unit at 214-671-3632.29800:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,680And you know, just as Eli was saying, another way that you can lift up these voices, lift29900:22:02,680 --> 00:22:08,800up these stories is by rating and reviewing this podcast by leaving a written review and30000:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,220Apple podcasts, it really helps others find our podcast, find these stories, find these30100:22:13,220 --> 00:22:19,000cases so please if you have a minute, we would appreciate it so much.30200:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,400Also following us on Instagram, sharing our graphics that are made over there, of course,30300:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,720we'll be sharing photos of D’Lisa this week.30400:22:25,720 --> 00:22:31,020So if you're not following us, you can find us at cold and missing will pop right up.30500:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,320And of course, our website as well.30600:22:33,320 --> 00:22:41,500We have transcripts of all the episodes www.coldandmissing.com so you can find those over there.30700:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,400And we're also on YouTube.30800:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,740If you want to subscribe and listen to us over there, you can find us there and we have30900:22:47,740 --> 00:22:50,480wonderful conversations in the comment section.31000:22:50,480 --> 00:22:57,880So lots of ways to interact lots of ways to get the algorithm talking about D’Lisa.31100:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600Thank you again so much for listening to cold and missing.31200:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,080I'm your host, Ali.31300:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,820And I'm your co host, Eli.31400:23:03,820 --> 00:23:05,640Have a good week and stay safe, y'all.31500:23:05,640 --> 00:23:12,640Stay safe, y'all.