Cold and Missing: Anthonette Cayedito

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,780The views and opinions expressed in Cold and Missing are exclusively those of the hosts.200:00:13,780 --> 00:00:18,400All parties mentioned are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.300:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160Cold and Missing also contains adult themes and languages.400:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560Listener discretion is advised.500:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280I'm your host, Ali McLaughlin-Sulkowski.600:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680And I'm your co-host, Eli Sulkowski.700:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,560And this is Cold and Missing, where we cover cold cases and missing person cases.800:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,200Hello everyone and welcome back to Cold and Missing.900:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,940I'm your host, Ali, and it'll just be me coming to you this week.1000:00:41,940 --> 00:00:46,040My wonderfully handsome co-host, Eli, is not here right now.1100:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,280I'm actually recording this kind of late, so he's already in bed.1200:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,160So I was a little behind this week as far as getting my script done on time.1300:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,720But I still wanted to bring you a new episode, and today we are on a missing person case.1400:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,080And just as a bit of a content warning, this case does involve a young person.1500:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,960Today we are talking about the missing person case of Anthonette Cayedito.1600:01:11,960 --> 00:01:17,240And this takes place in April of 1986 in Gallup, New Mexico.1700:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,800But first, a little bit about Anthonette.1800:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,640Anthonette is nine years old in 1986.1900:01:23,640 --> 00:01:30,120She was born on Christmas Day 1976, and she would be 47 years old today.2000:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,880Anthonette had two younger sisters, Sadie or Sedina and Wendy.2100:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,600And Anthonette doted after these two.2200:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,800They were all raised by their mother, Penny Cayedito.2300:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,880And according to her sisters, Anthonette would take care of them in a lot of ways.2400:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,800She was always dependable.2500:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,040She would feed them, iron their clothes for the week, and just kind of be2600:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,240a really incredible older sister and a wonderful daughter to her mother.2700:01:57,240 --> 00:02:03,720Anthonette at this time is four foot seven, 55 pounds, and has brown eyes with brown hair.2800:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,600She's a part of the Navajo Nation.2900:02:07,160 --> 00:02:13,320Her family called her Squirrel and often commented that she was nine years old going on 15.3000:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760And now the timeline of events.3100:02:16,760 --> 00:02:24,040So on Saturday, April 5th, 1986, Penny is going out for the night with friends.3200:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,640A babysitter comes over to watch the girls while Penny has her night out on the town.3300:02:29,640 --> 00:02:32,280It's reported that she's just going to a local bar.3400:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,640Even though Anthonette takes care of her sisters, her mother always left them with an adult if she3500:02:37,640 --> 00:02:40,280was going to be out for an extended period of time.3600:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,240Penny returns home around midnight on Sunday, April 6th, so this would be the next day.3700:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,960She sends the babysitter home and settles in for the night.3800:02:47,960 --> 00:02:54,520Anthonette, Sadie, and Wendy all have their own rooms, but they all choose to sleep in their mom's room with her.3900:02:54,520 --> 00:03:01,720So when Penny arrives home, Anthonette is woken up and her and her mother stay up chatting until around 3 a.m.4000:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,120when they all finally fall asleep.4100:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,000Sadie recalls that someone knocked on the front door.4200:03:07,000 --> 00:03:13,720Her and Anthonette get up, but they don't recognize or respond to the man outside,4300:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,040and they go back to bed.4400:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,680It's unclear how long after, but Sadie and Anthonette hear another knock on the front door.4500:03:22,680 --> 00:03:29,160This time only Anthonette gets up, in her pink nightgown, and Sadie stays in bed and falls back asleep.4600:03:29,160 --> 00:03:39,960A neighbor recalled that between 6.30 and 7 a.m., she saw an older model brown truck with New Mexico license plates pull up outside of the Cayedito home.4700:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,960The neighbor saw a man approach the front door, but she didn't pay too much attention to him at that time.4800:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,720Around 7 a.m., Penny gets up and starts to wake up her daughters so they can get ready for Bible school.4900:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,160Penny notices that Anthonette is not in the bed.5000:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,360She gets up and looks around the house for her.5100:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,240Nothing is missing of Anthonette's except her pink nightgown that she wore to bed.5200:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,080Her mother Penny says, quote,5300:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,320All her coats are there and her shoes are both there. I can just tell she didn't dress. End quote.5400:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,960Near the front door, there are no signs of a struggle, but both the front door and the screen door are unlocked,5500:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,560and Penny is sure that they were both locked when she went to bed.5600:04:21,560 --> 00:04:27,480Penny takes Sadie and Wendy out in their PJs and begins to walk around the neighborhood5700:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,240and knock on all of the neighbor's doors to see if they have seen Anthonette or have heard anything.5800:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,960Penny finally calls the police around 11 a.m. to report Antonette missing,5900:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,520but police tell her she has to wait eight hours before she can make a report.6000:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,200Penny calls her ex, Larry Estrada, to come help search,6100:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,080and family and friends all turn up to search the neighborhood and nearby vacant land,6200:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,320but they don't turn up any clues.6300:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,760Police officially seem to get involved either late Sunday night or early Monday morning,6400:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,920but for sure by Monday, April 6th, police are searching the neighborhood.6500:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,120But it'll take around four days to search the home,6600:05:06,120 --> 00:05:12,280and by this time, a lot of family and friends have come through the home and kind of contaminated the scene.6700:05:12,280 --> 00:05:17,880On Wednesday, April 9th, Antonette has been missing for three days.6800:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,000Gallup police call off their official search.6900:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,840Police say that they are awaiting further leads in her disappearance,7000:05:24,840 --> 00:05:29,800but a $500 reward is announced for any information leading to her.7100:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,840The next day, police have come up with a plan, and they are going to backtrack7200:05:34,840 --> 00:05:38,200and re-question family, friends, and neighbors.7300:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,360Police do say that they are getting leads,7400:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,440but they are having trouble tracking down everyone in Anthonette's life.7500:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,280Detective Danny Ross says, quote,7600:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,960We have to look at it as an abduction now.7700:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,760If she had gone with someone willingly, contact would have been made by someone by now.7800:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,840We're starting at ground zero.7900:05:57,400 --> 00:05:57,960End quote.8000:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,400Anthonette's parents believe that she went with someone she knew.8100:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,920Her parents are sure that she would not open the door for anyone that she didn't know.8200:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,000Anthonette's dad says, quote,8300:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000It's like she just vanished.8400:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,840It's unbelievable to me.8500:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,640You hear of kids being taken from some public place, but not from their own home.8600:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,600End quote.8700:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,000Anthonette's family has gone door to door, joined police searches,8800:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,240and distributed flyers in hopes to get some leads and clues on what.8900:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,520Happened to Anthonette.9000:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,840The next big update that I could find comes from June 22nd of 1986.9100:06:34,840 --> 00:06:40,120So Anthonette has been missing for about two and a half months at this point.9200:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,840Police are baffled by her disappearance.9300:06:42,840 --> 00:06:45,480Police Chief Frank Gonzalez says, quote,9400:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,920There wasn't a trace.9500:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,600If there had been anything, we would have found something the next day.9600:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,720End quote.9700:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,360Police say they have polygraphed the family,9800:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,400and it is reported that they all passed.9900:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,000Now later, they will say that Penny failed her polygraph,10000:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,640but it is initially reported that all family passed the polygraph test.10100:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,840During this two and a half months, Penny gets a telephone installed in her home.10200:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,840She hadn't had one prior to this,10300:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,000but she doesn't want to miss any updates or news about her daughter.10400:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,040Penny says, quote,10500:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,800I know she's alive out there.10600:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,000I just know that.10700:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,520My mother's intuition.10800:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,920I'm depending on Anthonette to get away, to somehow get a message to us.10900:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,960End quote.11000:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800And with that, on April 12th, 1987,11100:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,880so it's been a full year now since Anthonette disappeared,11200:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,000Gallup police get a phone call to their station,11300:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,200not 911, but their non-emergency line.11400:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440The phone call is automatically recorded,11500:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,080and according to reports, there was a 40-second phone call from Anthonette.11600:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,680She identified herself as Anthonette Cayedito,11700:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,360and that she was an Albuquerque.11800:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,960As she's talking, a man curses and demands who gave her permission to use the phone.11900:07:59,960 --> 00:08:05,320Another voice is heard, possibly an older person asking who is on the line.12000:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,080More cursing from the man and a child sobbing can all be heard.12100:08:09,080 --> 00:08:17,000Now, if you research this case, you will find audio of what is supposed to be this phone call,12200:08:17,000 --> 00:08:24,360it's very easy to find, you just have to type in Anthonette Cayedito 911 call or police phone call,12300:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,080like it'll pop right up, it's very easy to find.12400:08:27,560 --> 00:08:35,880But I'm not entirely sure that that recording is the official recording that police released.12500:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,400For one, every example that I could find of it,12600:08:39,400 --> 00:08:45,320at the end, it all has this like music, like kind of just like generic YouTube video,12700:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,360just like generic YouTube music underneath it.12800:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,840And then it kind of sounds like a sound effect of like a line going dead, or like the dialing tone.12900:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,680But it doesn't really follow this script that is initially reported,13000:08:58,680 --> 00:09:02,360like it does to a certain extent, but you don't hear another voice,13100:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,320you don't really hear more cursing, there's not a lot happening that you can hear.13200:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,320So I couldn't verify it, I couldn't find any, you know,13300:09:11,320 --> 00:09:18,440newspapers or local news who played this, this clip, this audio,13400:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,400and reported it as Anthonette's phone call.13500:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,200And I couldn't find any investigation agency also putting it out there.13600:09:26,200 --> 00:09:32,360But we do know that in 1989, police do play the call on the radio to try to generate leads.13700:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,240So I say all that to say that it could be the phone call.13800:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,400But since I couldn't necessarily verify it, I'm not going to play it here on the podcast.13900:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,960But back to the timeline.14000:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,560So when police play the recording for Penny, she immediately believes that it is Antonette's.14100:09:49,560 --> 00:09:51,720She says, quote, it was her voice.14200:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,000I would know my baby's voice anywhere, end quote.14300:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,400Penny believes that Anthonette's is alive.14400:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,680And for the people who are holding her captive, she says, quote,14500:10:00,680 --> 00:10:03,080I don't think they mean to harm her.14600:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,280I think they just don't know how to give her back without getting in trouble.14700:10:06,280 --> 00:10:06,840End quote.14800:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,240In December of 1987, which should have been Anthonette's 11th birthday,14900:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,960and she's been missing for around 20 months now,15000:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,000police say that there have been sightings of Anthonette's from all over the United States.15100:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,200Police and the FBI look into these sightings and most are quickly dismissed.15200:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,200Police have been unable to rule anyone out as a suspect,15300:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,200and police do believe that some family members have not been forthcoming15400:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,600with all the information that they may know.15500:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,560Police say they are restarting the case from square one.15600:10:39,560 --> 00:10:43,480Detective Amos Hinshaw says, quote, this is the third or fourth time15700:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,320we have started over at square one looking for something new, end quote.15800:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,160Sadie is now telling police that on the day that Anthonette disappeared,15900:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,680that morning hour between 3 a.m. and 7 a.m., Sadie is now saying that there was a man16000:10:58,680 --> 00:11:03,240and a woman at the door, and they ID'd themselves as an aunt and uncle.16100:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,680She says, quote, they said, hurry up, we're cold out here, open the door, end quote.16200:11:08,680 --> 00:11:14,520As I just mentioned, police do release Anthonette's phone call in January of 198916300:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,200on the local radio, and this does generate some leads.16400:11:18,680 --> 00:11:22,280Investigators feel that they have no other options at this point,16500:11:22,280 --> 00:11:27,000but to release the audio since they are out of leads, they have nowhere to turn,16600:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,760and Anthonette has been missing for almost three years now.16700:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,920Police didn't want to release it any sooner because they worried that the child16800:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,600would have gotten in trouble if that man that can be heard on the audio figured out16900:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,560that she did call police. Police did believe there was a chance that the person didn't know17000:11:45,560 --> 00:11:53,560it was a police line that she had called. In 1990, a waitress in Carson City, Nevada17100:11:53,560 --> 00:11:59,400is waiting on a couple that has a teenage girl with them, and she describes them as uncapped.17200:11:59,400 --> 00:12:07,400Anthonette at this time would be around 13 or 14 years old, so the description of like a teenager17300:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,920being there does match and does fit up. The teenage girl kept dropping her fork,17400:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,920and when the waitress would get it for her, the girl would squeeze her hand.17500:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,920After they left, the server found a napkin under the girl's plate that said, help me, call police.17600:12:22,920 --> 00:12:28,120It's not clear how Anthonette gets associated with this encounter, but it does seem like she17700:12:28,120 --> 00:12:34,920recognized the girl as Anthonette later. Anthonette's case appears to fall out of the media until around17800:12:34,920 --> 00:12:42,7602016. Anthonette's youngest sister, Wendy, looks back 30 years and says, quote, I remember the police17900:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,640asking me what happened, and I had thought then that it was one of our uncles at the door.18000:12:48,280 --> 00:12:54,200That turned out not to be true. Really, I'm not sure what happened to her, end quote. Penny had18100:12:54,200 --> 00:13:00,120passed away in the late 90s, but police do suggest in recent reports that she knew more than what she18200:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,160told them and that she did in fact fail the polygraph test, as I had mentioned previously.18300:13:05,640 --> 00:13:11,080Now, if you are to research this case on your own after this podcast or maybe during this podcast,18400:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,680if you're multitasking, I have read about some other rumors in the case that I just couldn't18500:13:16,680 --> 00:13:22,760verify and I didn't see any like news outlets reporting on, so I'm not sure what happened.18600:13:22,760 --> 00:13:29,400I'll just kind of mention them briefly here, but years later, Wendy will say that she did witness18700:13:29,400 --> 00:13:36,440the abduction and that she saw two men grab Antonette and like kind of pull her outside from18800:13:36,440 --> 00:13:42,120her standing at the door, kind of answering the door. So that's one story that's kind of popped up18900:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,920over the internet, but I couldn't find the origin of it. I wasn't sure where that came from. And19000:13:46,920 --> 00:13:55,640another rumor is that Penny was involved with the planning and kidnapping of her daughter.19100:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,320Now, police do seem a little suspicious that Penny isn't telling them everything that she may know,19200:14:02,120 --> 00:14:11,160but they never publicly accuse her of setting up her daughter's disappearance or name her19300:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,360officially as a suspect. They just can't rule her out, but they've never been able to rule anybody19400:14:16,360 --> 00:14:22,920out in this case, so that's kind of where that stands for those two items. But if you know19500:14:22,920 --> 00:14:30,120anything about the disappearance of Anthonette Cayedito in April of 1986 or her whereabouts today,19600:14:30,680 --> 00:14:39,640please call the Gallup Police Department at 505-863-9365. And the sources for the timeline today19700:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,800come from the Albuquerque Journal, which really covered a lot of the story and where I got a lot19800:14:43,800 --> 00:14:53,800of my articles, the Santa Fe New Mexican, and QRQE News. So that is the case and timeline of19900:14:53,800 --> 00:15:01,080Anthonette Cayedito. And this case is pretty well covered. I noticed it had been covered by20000:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,440a lot of podcasts, a lot of blogs. There's a lot of reports out there, which is why I'm a little20100:15:06,440 --> 00:15:12,520cautious about reporting those rumors or slipping those into the timeline. I try to just keep the20200:15:12,520 --> 00:15:19,080timeline to the facts that I've been able to kind of verify and look up in research. But this case,20300:15:19,080 --> 00:15:26,680I think, is so popular because of this phone call aspect that Anthonette called almost a year to the20400:15:26,680 --> 00:15:35,160date, the non-emergency police number at the police station to kind of say, to identify herself and20500:15:35,160 --> 00:15:41,720say that she's an Albuquerque and then there's some sort of commotion with the man. Another20600:15:41,720 --> 00:15:48,280person is maybe heard in the background. And as I mentioned in the timeline, there is a recording20700:15:48,280 --> 00:15:53,640floating out there on the internet. But again, I just couldn't find the origin of this phone call.20800:15:53,640 --> 00:16:00,680So I didn't know if it was, you know, maybe actors recreating it. If it is the actual audio,20900:16:00,680 --> 00:16:07,480we know the police did release the audio at some point. I tried to email the Gallup Police21000:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,440Department to see if I could get a copy of this, but as of today, I haven't gotten a response. So21100:16:13,000 --> 00:16:20,440that's fine. I will update, of course, if I get one. But I would be very interested to hear21200:16:21,800 --> 00:16:28,840that phone call and to really know what's being said there. And it's just like21300:16:30,680 --> 00:16:37,400the validity of it. Police say that they were unable to trace that phone call. And unfortunately,21400:16:37,400 --> 00:16:43,720it's something that we see a lot in these cold cases, things that drag on year over year is that21500:16:43,720 --> 00:16:51,800some people will just kind of be especially cruel and like call the parents and say that they have21600:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,960them, they've seen them, you know, just like those cruel jokes. And unfortunately, it's something that21700:16:55,960 --> 00:17:03,720we hear about quite a bit. So is it that like someone just being like really cruel? I'm not sure.21800:17:03,720 --> 00:17:10,120But I would be interested in really hearing that phone call if it's not the one that you can find21900:17:10,120 --> 00:17:20,200online. But another kind of question that I have is all these sightings of Antonette's across the22000:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,800United States. There's, I think, like five different states where there are reports of her coming in,22100:17:25,800 --> 00:17:32,760and, you know, FBI are able to rule a lot of those out. But then we have this waitress' store22200:17:32,760 --> 00:17:40,120of this teenage girl with this couple that leaves the note that says, Please help call police. Like,22300:17:40,680 --> 00:17:46,520what happened there, you know, regardless of if it's if it's Anthonette or not, I would just be22400:17:46,520 --> 00:17:52,120curious what exactly is happening there, because it seemed like the girl needed help one way or the22500:17:52,120 --> 00:17:59,160other. And I hope she got it, you know, wherever she is today. Yeah, this case, you know, kind of22600:17:59,160 --> 00:18:05,080kept bringing up hope for the family that they were going to be able to bring Antonette home,22700:18:05,080 --> 00:18:11,720you know, with the phone call and all these sightings. I just feel really bad for her family,22800:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,440her mother, her sisters. They were such a close unit, but it really seems like her disappearance,22900:18:16,440 --> 00:18:23,000you know, caused a very deep wound in everybody that took a long time to heal, which I think is23000:18:23,000 --> 00:18:29,320really understandable. And I can't imagine the roller coaster that the family would go through of23100:18:29,320 --> 00:18:36,280feeling her absence very loudly, but then also getting these glimmers of hope that she is alive.23200:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,760She's trying to get a message out. Like she's trying to call for help. Like, we're going to23300:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,920bring her home any day now. Like, those like roller coasters of emotions of like highs and lows, like,23400:18:46,920 --> 00:18:53,720I really want peace for this family and justice for them and answers for them. They deserve to know23500:18:53,720 --> 00:19:02,120what happened to their sister. It's really unfortunate that it felt like police really23600:19:02,120 --> 00:19:09,560waited and kind of dropped the ball in those first, you know, very critical 48 hours, like,23700:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,240just telling Penny that she had to wait eight hours before she could report her daughter missing.23800:19:15,240 --> 00:19:21,080You know, she had already waited. It was seven to 11, you know, like that was already a chunk of time23900:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,960to figure out she's not in the neighborhood. She's not in the house. She's not, you know,24000:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,720she's not anywhere. We need to get searching and, you know, the family and friends come together24100:19:31,720 --> 00:19:37,640and do search. But, you know, you can't help but wonder, like, did they miss something? Did they24200:19:37,640 --> 00:19:45,160miss something? Did they maybe contaminate a scene or evidence? Like, all of these people searching24300:19:45,160 --> 00:19:50,200and probably in a very heightened state of emotion kind of frantically searching, like,24400:19:50,200 --> 00:19:56,520was something missed? Was something ignored, stepped on? Like, you know, was there, you know,24500:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,000shuffles in the grass or like, you know, an indentation indicating a struggle that people24600:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,480just didn't notice because they're looking, they're not looking for those little, little details.24700:20:05,480 --> 00:20:12,920They're looking for the big obvious, where is Anthonette? You know, but yeah, I really hope that24800:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,040this family gets answers because it's been a very long time. And, you know, in the beginning,24900:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,280the police didn't really take it all that seriously. But more recently, you know,25000:20:22,280 --> 00:20:29,160I mentioned 2016 is kind of when it re-emerges in the media. And that is directly because of25100:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,280the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women Movement, which we've talked about on this podcast before.25200:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,320You know, that advocacy work and talking about these cases that don't get a lot of coverage25300:20:39,640 --> 00:20:47,400does help them get attention at police departments. So really, thank you for being here and thank you25400:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,920for listening to stories like Anthonette's because it really does help and it helps put pressure on25500:20:52,920 --> 00:20:58,680police to solve it and to put resources towards this case. So you're, you know, this is kind of25600:20:58,680 --> 00:21:05,080the work too. So I appreciate you being here. And again, if you know anything about the disappearance25700:21:05,080 --> 00:21:12,520of Anthonette Cayedito in April of 1986 or her whereabouts today, please call the Gallup Police25800:21:12,520 --> 00:21:24,360Department at 505-863-9365. 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